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Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMYeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."i get all that, my dude...and that fine, cuz its ur opinion. but i'd like to highly disagree with u when u say that theres no longer such thing as regional sound. Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.
Quote from: NIKCC on October 26, 2012, 10:14:04 PMXzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype. I don't know. I think the Xzibit album definitely caters to the more traditional West Coast sound that people expect. Not that that's a problem for me but I like that K. Dot is trying something different. I've only had a chance to hear "good kid m.A.A.d city" once so far but to me, it feels like a "game changer". Opinions are really all over the place but that's too be expected. Having heard it, I don't get your regional sound complaint either. The content sound unavoidably L.A., it just isn't the California hip-hop formula we've become accustomed to.
classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklystuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklystuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
Quote from: UCC on October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklystuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses... None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Quote from: Meho on October 27, 2012, 09:40:26 AMQuote from: UCC on October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklstuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses... None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
Quote from: UCC on October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklstuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses... None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklstuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
Quote from: PLANT on October 27, 2012, 11:29:45 AMQuote from: Meho on October 27, 2012, 09:40:26 AMQuote from: UCC on October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklstuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses... None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.
More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music. It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in oldschool music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed. Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on October 27, 2012, 12:19:16 PMQuote from: PLANT on October 27, 2012, 11:29:45 AMQuote from: Meho on October 27, 2012, 09:40:26 AMQuote from: UCC on October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PMif 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is. Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be botheredabout their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"so they're eager to jump on anything.Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quicklstuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heardBrother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses... None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" got this --Pitchfork Media - 10/10Rolling Stone 5/5Slant Magazine 5/5XXL - XXLRobert Christgau - AEntertainment Weekly - AThe Independent - 5/5NME - 9/10Spin 9/10Allmusic - 4/5The Guardian - 4/5So that Kanye album got higher than Kendrick at a bunch of places, Pitchfork, NME, Rolling Stone, etc. and the same on XXL...I'm not saying it like "Kanye is better than Kendrick", because I don't really like either (they're both ok though),just to show that sometimes critics go crazy over stuff when it's first out...
Quote from: westsideconnection on October 27, 2012, 03:23:21 PMMore than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music. It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in oldschool music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed. Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA. thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post