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Aladin:
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on November 16, 2012, 01:36:21 AM ---You see, you got it twisted. I'm not 'anti-Islam' at all, or pro-Zionist.
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You are missing the point of the video.
The point was there is a GREAT Deception going on.
Did you not find that video amazing (remember it was from 2003) in it's prediction about the events going on today?
The speaker in that video has some great spiritual insight. Where did he get it from?
How do we know these events, because we have got guidance in the form of the holy Quran and the Sunnah.
You and I would be clueless without these guidance.
But you ofcourse will disagree, so keep following that book of yours. I won't stop ya.
Every individual has his one quest for truth.
But When you stand before your Lord, prepare your answer 2 him.
Back 2 the deception.
Muslims are not immune 2 this deception.
I dear 2 say, they are the mayority 2 be deceived in this time and age will also be muslims. Look at the bloodshed that they spill, weakening muslim countries from within. These fighters, think they are fighting a just cause, but ultimatly are following the worst enemy of mankind.
But they will not stop there, they already are planning 2 clash US/Europe with Russia/China. To get rid of any future competition.
You don't believe me, wait until they attack Iran.
The Overfiend:
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on November 16, 2012, 05:59:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on November 16, 2012, 02:03:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on November 15, 2012, 01:35:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on November 14, 2012, 07:25:04 AM ---...and 'Satan' is fuckin awesome. Whoever thinks otherwise just hasn't done the knowledge on that cat. Fuck what you think, it's about what you know.
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Yeah if you think systematically opposing nature at every opportunity is cool.
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Perhaps your idea of 'Satanism' is different. I myself am not specifically a 'Satanist', although my concept of it is not limited to the Christian-Judeo-centric view. I just read different books about different faiths and can dig some aspects of each one.
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Lol I'd say it's you who doesn't understand satanism. The motto of satanism is "Do as thou wilt". Meaning do whatever you please, regardless of the consequences and who it effects. I suggest reading some Aleister Crowley (aka The Beast aka the wickedest man alive) / Anton LaVey / Albert Pike.
And FYI, satanism is the intended antithesis of christiantity, so you can't separate the 2. Im not a christian (nor slave to any religion) but I def understand where it is coming from. Satanism is the more modern version of luciferianism (although the extremely high elitists today are luciferian, as their thousands year old bloodline leads them back to the polytheism days).
There is absolutely nothing cool about satanism, unless you're a liar / thief / murderer / overall piece of shit. There are lots of those people in the world today unfortunately.
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I have read Aleister Crowley and Anton LaVey's works. You're not dropping any knowledge here, mate. Wake-up.
In Anton's Satanic Bible, he defines Crowley's concept of 'Do What Thou Wilt', to be (arguably) clearer. It doesn't actually mean doing whatever the fuck you want regardless of the consequences to whom or what it effects. The fact you reckon it does shows that you haven't actually independently read it for yourself. That herd mentality is dangerous, before you know it you're lynching people for being witches, conducting 'exorcisms' on mentally ill people, and believing anything the government tells us about 2 planes colliding with 3 towers. But not you, surely? No, you are informed! You're not one of the herd! You've read 'Behold a Pale Horse!'. Hahahaaa. Ok, straight from the late 'Demon-Lord' himself:
"Satanism encourages any form of...expression you may desire, so long as it hurts no one else".
-Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible
Anyway, I'm not here to defend Satanism. After-all, its the type of 'religion' that revels in being misunderstood, hated, and despised. Its kind of its thing.
Its debate-able whether Crowley even believed in the 'Devil' himself, or even LaVey who recognized that such a thing was unnecessary: they were just shit-stirrers who recognized that dogma and ritual are essential for human-beings. The whole gist of it, is that the potential for good and evil rests within people themselves, and recognizing this is essential for humanity to grow the fuck up and quit passing the buck for its actions to external 'gods' and 'beings' and take responsibility for its own freedom and actions. If you look at the Tarot card of the Devil, a concept of Satan older than LaVey or Crowley or Christianity, it shows a half goat-half man (Pan) with a man and a woman chained at his feet. Perhaps the earliest representation of our sub-consciousness. It represents the animality of human-beings and our relationship to this side of ourselves (excess, greed, selfishness, baseness, ignorance, your impulses, etc), that ultimately needs to be self-critically recognized and addressed, and controlled (not necessarily outright denied, hence 'self-controlled selfishness) for the Fool to succeed. Here's an excerpt of a Tarot interpretation of the Devil card:
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"All I am doing is bringing out what is already in you," The Goat-God responds mildly. "Such feelings are nothing to fear, nothing to be ashamed of, or even to avoid. They are even useful to helping you in your quest for spirituality, though many try to pretend otherwise."
The Fool gestures angrily at the chained men and women, "You say that even though these are clearly enslaved to the material world?"
The Goat-god mimics the Fool's gesture. "Take another look." The Fool does so, and realizes that the chained collars the men and women wear are wide enough for them to easily slip off over their heads. "They can be free if they wish to be," the Goat-god says, "They remain here because they want to be controlled by their base, bestial desires. There are, however, others...."
At this the Goat-god gestures upward, toward the peak of the mountain. "...Others who have used these same impulses to climb to the highest heights. If they had denied their desires they'd never have gotten there."
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This is still at the heart of LaVey's conception of 'Satanism", when asked whether Satanism encourages drug use and alcoholism, LaVey replied:
"We certainly don't. Both are self-destructive. Typical of losers. And we don't want losers. Satanism is a winner's creed".
heyyou:
--- Quote from: Aladin on November 14, 2012, 03:14:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Annual Regatta and Seafood Fair on November 13, 2012, 08:28:23 PM ---Muslims, answer for this, NOW!
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/11/13/249405.html
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Now this world has also contaminated our women... I mean Muslim women.
We in our holy book are allowed 2 have up 2 four wives.
Our women now don't accept that.
Ask yourself, if you had 4 wives (not bitches, who are disloyal and running around behind ya back)
Wives who honour and respect you. And are yours for pleasure.
Would you need any of that nasty stuff that they bombard you with?
Modern western civilisation says NO, one man one woman! That is it.
But while you married they bombard you with images of other women day andnight.
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I'm not a muslim, and i don't want to sound like i'm bashing it (all religions i believe have things i agree & disagree with), but i have to disagree with some points.
Why is it ok for a man to have up to 4 wifes and not the other way around? I don't think it's only western civilisation that says one man & one woman.
Women 'are yours for pleasure'?
You can't make a post against the decline in morality and how women have become sexual objects and then post the above points!
Aladin:
--- Quote from: heyyou on November 17, 2012, 01:49:22 AM ---I'm not a muslim, and i don't want to sound like i'm bashing it (all religions i believe have things i agree & disagree with), but i have to disagree with some points.
Why is it ok for a man to have up to 4 wifes and not the other way around? I don't think it's only western civilisation that says one man & one woman.
Women 'are yours for pleasure'?
You can't make a post against the decline in morality and how women have become sexual objects and then post the above points!
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Maybe I stated it the wrong way.
Muslims may have up 2 four wives. If you want just one it is also possible.
But for some men that is not enough so God Allowed them 2 have more then one wife.
It is unnatural 2 have more then one husband.
The first problem, who is the daddy when a woman gets pregnant.
Then again there are more girls born then boys, where is you solution for that.
When there are not enough men n 2 marry, what will women do? They gonna be stealing husbands.
About pleasure, I meant the pleasures in a marriage which is natural.
In Islam it is not Haram for a man or a woman 2 have pleasure from one and other.
This is the mans point of view.
I can also give you the womans point of view.
A woman in islam has also right form her husband for pleasure and she has 2 be taken care of.
It is her right.
If she works, she can spend it on herself. Man can not use that money for the family, only if she agrees.
Here is a funny video where a muslim Sheik explains the point of view of sexual objects,
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: YouKnowWhatItIzHomie on November 14, 2012, 01:28:34 AM ---There is often a huge difference between who you claim to be / try to become, and who you really are...
Even Iblis (Satan) will not suffer as much as the hypocrites, they will take the lower place in Hell.
But only the Almighty knows the hearts
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That's a good post.
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