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Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 12:47:29 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap. So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.
Quote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap.
I am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.
Quote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 01:15:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 12:47:29 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap. So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing. Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers. U mad at whitey Mdogg?
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 02:01:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 01:15:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 12:47:29 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap. So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing. Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers. U mad at whitey Mdogg?Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118
Quote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 07:52:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 02:01:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 01:15:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 12:47:29 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap. So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing. Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers. U mad at whitey Mdogg?Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118There were over 500 murders in Chicago in 2012. Guess how many of those were by blacks? 65% or 325. Are you sick of that too or no? The man has you right where he wants you...looking at superficial bullshit that he waves in front of your face which distracts and prevents you from doing a little digging and seeing how the man is truly the one responsible for these tragedies. But people like you and willy laugh that off, so comfortable in your belief system and faith in your masters despite the facts and history to prove otherwise.
Quote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 07:52:02 PMMass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118Suicidal lunacy is a product of the upper middle class. You won't see blacks and latinos do this until their fincial positions rise. And it's a shame they don't keep the Arab or stats. They'd make the white number count seem small.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 06, 2013, 08:16:01 AMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 07:52:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 02:01:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 01:15:02 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on January 04, 2013, 12:47:29 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 04, 2013, 11:57:31 AMI am not talking of unarming honest Americans. I am talking about making a provision that in order to own a gun, you have to prove you can handle a gun, clean a gun, know how to store a gun, and know that a gun is more likely to shot a family member than an intruder. These are gun basics. Right now ANYONE can buy a gun. You say the majority of people respect guns, I don't argue that. But if everyone respected guns, we would not be the nation with the most murders in the Industrialized World. We would not have so many kids who die from gun accidents each year. We have a huge problem.Lets also look at mental health. We have lost more soldiers to suicide than to combat. We allow people who have mental health issues to get a gun. It's time we stop saying, I'M A RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, DON'T TALK ABOUT ME. THAT'S BULLSHIT. I am a gun owner too, and I'm bringing it up. We need to change. It's time we look from within and figure out how to get people to respect guns. I am sick and tired of babies dying in gun accidents. I am sick and tired of the same profile of white male committing mass shootings. I am sick and tired of children dying in gang cross fires. I am sick and tired of IDIOTS owning guns and thinking it's a damn toy. When I posted on my Facebook about the lack of respect people have for guns, my dad shocked me when he said, "That's why I never bought you a BB gun, but you know how to fire an M-1. Straight up, he never bought me a pallet gun, but I was 14 years old firing M-1's and an SKS Soviet military semi-automatic. As I said, I am NOT anti-gun, I am not even anti-assault rifle. But I am against IDIOTS getting a gun. And it's IDIOTS to usually want assault rifles. You want a gun, the constitution allows that. But also know that there are people who non-gun owners call "GUN NUTS" and it's these people that give you, and me a bad name.I was with you up until you said you're sick of white people committing mass shootings...you need to do a better job at rising above racism my friend. By your statement, you're not sick of Blacks, Mexicans, etc killing each other for decades of turf wars?You also forget the Malvo serial killer that terrorized DC about 10 years ago? 2 black guys went around sniping innocent people. But that's ok because they're black right?The powers that be drive race into your mind daily because it keeps you distracted from looking at them. Don't fall into the trap. So this is how you think, this is how you try to discredit the truth? Hey it's up to you to stay stuck in your own ignorance.What truth are you referring to? Your post was racist and you prolly didn't even realize it till I pointed it out to you. You're the one that said you're sick of white people killing, which infers that you aren't sick of other races killing. Jon Malvo and the other dude were black serial killers. U mad at whitey Mdogg?Not mad at whitey. But when I heard about Sandy Hook, and I already knew the profile of the killer before it was even released to the public is a very, very telling statement about the recent history of mass murderers. You keep pointing to DC sniper, you could also point to Virginia Tech as the killer was Asian. But that's only two out of many. Now I will be honest, Asians do have a high number of mass murders as well, and Blacks and Latinos have a couple. But compared to whites, no minority is even close. In 2012, look at who has been doing the shooting.Adam Lanza; Newtown, CT; 28 dead; White (mentally ill)Andrew Engeldinger; Minneapolis, MN; 8 dead; White (killed his employer and others after being fired)Wade Michael Page; Oak Creek, WI; 10 dead; White (thought he was shooting at Muslims, turned out they were Sikhs)James Holmes; Aurora, CO; 70 dead; White (mentally ill)Ian Stawicki; Seattle, WA; 7 dead; White (reason unknown, girlfriend said he was acting weird that day)One L. Goh; Oakland, CA; 10 dead; Asian (Former nursing student who wanted revenge after being teased)Jeong Soo Paek; Atlanta, GA; 5 dead; Asian (killed sisters, their husbands and then himself in a dispute)Mass murders death count this last year by race: Blacks: 0; Latino: 0; Asians: 15; Whites: 118There were over 500 murders in Chicago in 2012. Guess how many of those were by blacks? 65% or 325. Are you sick of that too or no? The man has you right where he wants you...looking at superficial bullshit that he waves in front of your face which distracts and prevents you from doing a little digging and seeing how the man is truly the one responsible for these tragedies. But people like you and willy laugh that off, so comfortable in your belief system and faith in your masters despite the facts and history to prove otherwise. Murder victims and murderers are what you'd call, disproportionately Black. You will notice in my originally rant, I did mention children getting killed in gang cross fire. As 2Pac once said "It's just another murder, nobody mourns no more, My tear drops gettin bigger but can't figure what I'm cryin forIs it the miniature caskets, little babies, Victims of a stray, from drug dealers gone crazy" That was a comment on the violence on the streets. And I didn't put Black or White, because gang violence is mainly a Black and Latino thing. So what that means is that I did touch, not just on Blacks, but Latinos in one sentence. Honestly, I grew up around gang violence, I have actually had a 12 gauge shotgun pointed at a gang member who was threatening me and my dad. In El Monte, California, we were fixing apartments and these guys came like they own the place and they tried to cause trouble. My dad said, "get my gun", I went and I had that gun pointed at them. They ran. I have seen gang violence up close, but I, myself never pulled the trigger as them running was good enough. To me, I am not concern with gang violence right now, I am more concern with the children dying of gang violence.
Well, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?
Quote from: M Dogg on January 07, 2013, 09:22:15 PMWell, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shit
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 07, 2013, 11:39:39 PMQuote from: M Dogg on January 07, 2013, 09:22:15 PMWell, I did want to make one point, because Blacks and Latinos have been profiled for many other things. Man, for one of the best posters in ToT, you took that bait too easily. Man, are you okay Jrome, or like some of my good libertarian friends, this is an emotional topic?Jromes just worried people aren't 'researching' MK Ultra. Reasearching meaning 2 seconds to google it and go "oh...hmmmm....ok then"Really tho, I've noticed conspiracy theorists only want to see things their way, you can ask them the same thing 10 times and they won't address it..or give you the same stock replies. On some Scientology shitHi little willy, yes I see you, you can stop jumping up an down begging me to acknowledge you. I'm not worried about you little fella, like I said, I pity you and being the person I am I try to help you. I'm a nice guy. Unfortunately schooling you on this is like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.