Author Topic: SOUTH niggaz LOVE the WEST (Read 353 times)

bouli77 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2013, 04:17:41 AM »

Yeah the Bay sound had a bigger influence on the South than L.A.. If you read my post, I mention several Bay Area artists : Totally Insane, Too $hort, E-40, JT The Bigga Figga, etc. However, G-Funk had obviously an influence on the South as well. When you're the biggest thing in HIp Hop, you influence one way or another the rest of the genre, like East coast boom bap or New orleans bounce influenced other artists as well. plus the Bay sound isn't that far from G-Funk, especially the Oakland scene, which was the most commercially successful Bay scene.

You're right about the Eastcoast but you stated the obvious right here. I mean, NY is where it all started, so of course rap fans from everywhere were influenced by the Rakim's, the Melle Mel's, Kool Moe Dee's, LL Cool J's and them.

but it's interesting to note that a lot of trends in rap started in the West and the Bay and were blown up by other regions, theWest (Bay & SoCal) and the South (some local scenes) had somewhat close ties, but the Bay never really crossed over except for a few acts (Hammer, E-40, Too $hort, Luniz, Baby Bash and that's pretty much it) so their "game" really came to the forefront when the South took over. Some southern artists carried on the Bay's legacy in terms of slang and style, and enjoyed commercial success that the bay never really had.

And if you look at the most successful "newer" artists of the South in the 00's : Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Young Buck, T.I., Ludacris. Except for Ludacris, all have paid homage to the West and cited them as among their biggest influence. Rick Ross & Young Jeezy enjoyed tremendous commercial success, their type of "goon" rap sound like what B-Legit has been doing for a while, yet B-Legit never even went gold, and I don't think that B-Legit is less talented than both of them.

King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2013, 08:39:40 AM »

you also have to realize that the bay was completely influenced by dr dre and the g funk sound of SO CAL

bouli77 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2013, 12:13:57 PM »

not really, the Bay developed their sound early on, influenced by electro-funk records, listen to Too $hort's songs on 75 Girls (mid 80's), this is the basis of Mobb Music

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/T3TCGw4qKU4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/T3TCGw4qKU4</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6-efAjnMOFs" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/6-efAjnMOFs</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/14vaK8MjAJc" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/14vaK8MjAJc</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/--5cIS_O8eU" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/--5cIS_O8eU</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/PDcs0ejkvB4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/PDcs0ejkvB4</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/a-I8Juhaj5A" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/a-I8Juhaj5A</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/WZoOHAUE4fY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/WZoOHAUE4fY</a>

in all these songs you can clearly identify the elements that would later characterize Mobb Music, and most of them were recorded before Dr. Dre was even relevant.

heavy basslines, mid-tempo beats. this has nothing to do with Dr Dre

the pioneers of the Bay sound are Khayree, K-Lou, Studio Ton, Sam Bostic, Shorty B.... all of them are accomplished musicians who come from the Funk era.

Sccit · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2013, 01:33:30 PM »

Quote from: bouli77 on February 09, 2013, 12:13:57 PM

not really, the Bay developed their sound early on, influenced by electro-funk records, listen to Too $hort's songs on 75 Girls (mid 80's), this is the basis of Mobb Music

in all these songs you can clearly identify the elements that would later characterize Mobb Music, and most of them were recorded before Dr. Dre was even relevant.

heavy basslines, mid-tempo beats. this has nothing to do with Dr Dre

the pioneers of the Bay sound are Khayree, K-Lou, Studio Ton, Sam Bostic, Shorty B.... all of them are accomplished musicians who come from the Funk era.

yea, but the bay did start incorporating g-funk into the music after dre and atl did it. not to say that they didn't use funk samples before that, but it wasn't exactly g-funk....if u take a close listen to the mob music of the mid 90's, it's basically just a harder version of g-funk.

Russell Bell · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2013, 01:48:31 PM »

^niks right

gfunk was definetly intertwined in the bay music of the 90s, no doubt

J. B A N A N A S · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2013, 03:51:15 PM »

Quote from: bouli77 on February 09, 2013, 12:13:57 PM

These are some classics everybody, study up. wow #tybg

Native American · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2013, 06:44:53 PM »

I BELIEVE alot of it has also to do with the east not welcoming any outsiders in. I mean def jam wanted to control any and all music that claimed to be east coast. Wonder why gay z was titled as the president, or why his first act as so called prez was to get G.O.A.T.N.A.S signed......

Look at the BIG picture, name one artist gay z still fucks with b4 kanye went mainstream..... ill wait...
Thats just an example of how the east coast uses and abuses artist, now imagine if u wanted to do a song with someone out the west...or south, the only ones who said fuck the east coast rules was the mutherfuckin Terror Squad. Then came 50, now can you see why gay z really dislike 50 ? LoL im getting off track. But the truth is in the pudding. So in a nutshell the west and south had to combine, not to mention the black panter movement, when people where extrodited to cali and out of cali.

Good thread ill be back to prop them ones whom deserve it.