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Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 02:13:32 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 01:23:16 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?Ok let's forget the Lanza case then, so it doesn't cloud things.By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.Well you read my response wrong because that's a wild conclusion to come to.As wild as restricting gun rights to responsible gun owners just because there are a few retards that exist.But you still think it's an inconvenience for parents/carers of handicapped children or adults to have to keep their weapons safely stored?
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 01:23:16 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?Ok let's forget the Lanza case then, so it doesn't cloud things.By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.Well you read my response wrong because that's a wild conclusion to come to.As wild as restricting gun rights to responsible gun owners just because there are a few retards that exist.
Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 01:23:16 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?Ok let's forget the Lanza case then, so it doesn't cloud things.By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?
How about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science
Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 01:23:16 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:40:45 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 29, 2013, 01:23:16 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 12:40:40 AMHow about being required to provide evidence of safer storage of guns and amunition when you have a mentally handicapped person living in your care?C'mon guys, it's not rocket science Yes, let's force everyone to cater to a particular scenario that occurs 0.001% of the time.That's efficient governing, right?And how do you expect an already bankrupt government to pay people to go into hundreds of millions of homes to inspect their gun security?
Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.
By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.
Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.I know you're trying to be clever dude but its boringDid you know Godfather pt II is just a movie?
Those new laws proposed don't do jack shit to stop a mass shooting or prevent a "criminal" from possessing a gun.The only thing that law does is further restrict the responsible gun owner. They get punished for everyone else's transgressions. So what was the purpose of this law then if it wasn't to further restrict the 2nd amendment?
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 03:23:27 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.I know you're trying to be clever dude but its boringDid you know Godfather pt II is just a movie?Did you know that you're attempts at trying to avoid my questions are always the same?
Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.Let's break it down a bit.We are supporters of the 2nd Amendment, which means you can't restrict gun rights. At the same time, you pick on Gangsta Rap, ironically enough of a Westcoast Rap forum. Also, Gangsta Rap has been dead for a while, BUT Rap Music is protected under the 1st Amendment. So your argument is irrelevant. You can't take away one right just to protect another.
Quote from: M Dogg on January 29, 2013, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AMQuote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AMBy your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.Let's break it down a bit.We are supporters of the 2nd Amendment, which means you can't restrict gun rights. At the same time, you pick on Gangsta Rap, ironically enough of a Westcoast Rap forum. Also, Gangsta Rap has been dead for a while, BUT Rap Music is protected under the 1st Amendment. So your argument is irrelevant. You can't take away one right just to protect another.It's less academic than that. Dude was claiming I can't have an opinion on guns simply because I like Gangsta music.
Also, Gangsta Rap has been dead for a while
MDogg why do you try and rationalise something which wasn't there? is it so you can convince yourself that things are better than what I am portraying? I never said they would try and take the guns in one fell swoop in the dead of night did I? You are creating a straw man from the fundamental point I made concerning the fact that YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS, at least according to these criminal laws. Everything is done piece meal, you will be gently acclimated into this new normal and before too long your stance will have altered, softened, as you stray further away from the ground in which you held. As for the premise of my original post, the fact that none of these gun control fans has even addressed what I wrote, speaks volumes to the irony.