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Quote from: Sami on February 09, 2013, 07:59:18 PMBut yeah, great documentary on how Hip-Hop has been subverted by the power structure.And the role of consumers and artists when they subdue to that power structure and act accordingly.
But yeah, great documentary on how Hip-Hop has been subverted by the power structure.
This argument was posed in the TOT but I copied and pasted it here so that it could be discussed in a music section of the forum. Rappers and fans always blame guys like Jimmy Iovine and the nefarious "CORPORATE MACHINE" but have rappers really fared any better going independent. Here's what I wrote..Quote from: Fraxxx on February 12, 2013, 01:23:37 AMQuote from: Sami on February 09, 2013, 07:59:18 PMBut yeah, great documentary on how Hip-Hop has been subverted by the power structure.And the role of consumers and artists when they subdue to that power structure and act accordingly.Yeah.. blame the corporate machine but when artists go independent the quality of music almost always gets worse. I have many examples of this...Xzibit - His 3 classic albums all came when he was signed to the major.Mos Def- After Rawkus records folded Mos went independent and all his albums since have failed to make an impressionTalib Kweli- Same as Mos DefCanibus- His first two albums with Universal were fucking sick!!! Then he lost his deal and started manufacturing "stan" beef with Eminem and his career fell so hard he joined the military.Daz Dillinger- Everything Daz did over at Death Row was fire. From his first verse he did on the Chronic to his last solo with Revenge Retaliation and Get Back this dude was a legend... then he went independent and faded out from there.Kurupt- Everything he did at Death Row was fire, and although his first solo wasn't great, his second and third solo's were dope... but since going independent this dude is said to have fallen off worse than any other West Coast artist.Ice Cube- Used to always put out quality records on majors and now I never even bothered checking out his independent releases....I could go on forever
i agree wit this post. i think it depends on the artist and how much they value quality.
Quote from: OG Classic Material on February 12, 2013, 02:53:09 PMi agree wit this post. i think it depends on the artist and how much they value quality.Right.. and they always blame the corporate machine for supposedly telling them what they should write about and not giving them control over their art. But look at the case of Dead Prez.Their first album on Columbia/Loud Records was all about revolutionary concepts. It was the best album they ever did. Their next album came out independent and it was less controversial and was a huge flop, both commercially and artistically.
Universal fucked the game up the moment they signed Nelly in 2000
Quote from: BloodMoney The Purp God on February 13, 2013, 12:40:18 PMUniversal fucked the game up the moment they signed Nelly in 2000no,they did not hater . get off nelly's dick & get a life loser . keep nelly's name out your mouth,mitch . the game was fucked up because of biggie,puffy & cash money before nelly was even around . nelly is the new school ll cool j & ll cool j is a goat . the bling bling crap that biggie, puffy , & cash money rapped about is what killed hip hop & made it trash . hip hop was already in trouble by 1997 not 2000.
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