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Quote from: PLANT on February 16, 2013, 04:17:05 AMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 07:33:47 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 06:33:29 PMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 04:19:43 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.I do believe Bron is better. More MVPs, more all NBA first teams, and all around better in basically every statistic category. And you know Kobe aint winning a title without Shaq during this period, you cant even argue that. Give your head a shake.yea, because Kobe sacrificed INDIVIDUAL stats and accomplishment for titles, since he played next to Shaq during a good portion of his prime....horrible reason to claim LeBron is better. we all know LeBron racked up individual accomplishments whole chokin the playoffs year in and year out...but Kobe, in his prime, was flawless. u cant say that about LeBron...he only started showing a killer instinct very recently. lets not get ahead of ourselves, my dude.Do you really think Kobe sacrificed his field goal % to win championships? Cmon man. Or did Kobe get less rebounds and assists to make the team better? Getting more boards and dimes simply makes your team better, point blank. And the fact is, LeBron is better at getting them, as well as scoring with a much higher efficiency. If anything, Kobe should have been the most efficient scorer of the 3 since he played with Shaq who was the one getting double-teamed all game.kobe has a lower fg% because he is a SHOOTER...deandre jordan also has a higher fg% than lebron, did u know that? lmao. and yea, lebron has more assists, because he's a PASS-FIRST player...kobe is the greatest scorer in the history of the league, so of course his assists will be lower when he's typically looking to SCORE FIRST. fact of the matter is, Kobe sacrificed MVPS, scoring titles, and all sort of indivudal accolades to play alongside Shaq and win TITLES. lol, come on, now, if Kobe played on a team like the Cavs in 2002, he woulda averaged 40 points
Quote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 07:33:47 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 06:33:29 PMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 04:19:43 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.I do believe Bron is better. More MVPs, more all NBA first teams, and all around better in basically every statistic category. And you know Kobe aint winning a title without Shaq during this period, you cant even argue that. Give your head a shake.yea, because Kobe sacrificed INDIVIDUAL stats and accomplishment for titles, since he played next to Shaq during a good portion of his prime....horrible reason to claim LeBron is better. we all know LeBron racked up individual accomplishments whole chokin the playoffs year in and year out...but Kobe, in his prime, was flawless. u cant say that about LeBron...he only started showing a killer instinct very recently. lets not get ahead of ourselves, my dude.Do you really think Kobe sacrificed his field goal % to win championships? Cmon man. Or did Kobe get less rebounds and assists to make the team better? Getting more boards and dimes simply makes your team better, point blank. And the fact is, LeBron is better at getting them, as well as scoring with a much higher efficiency. If anything, Kobe should have been the most efficient scorer of the 3 since he played with Shaq who was the one getting double-teamed all game.
Quote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 06:33:29 PMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 04:19:43 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.I do believe Bron is better. More MVPs, more all NBA first teams, and all around better in basically every statistic category. And you know Kobe aint winning a title without Shaq during this period, you cant even argue that. Give your head a shake.yea, because Kobe sacrificed INDIVIDUAL stats and accomplishment for titles, since he played next to Shaq during a good portion of his prime....horrible reason to claim LeBron is better. we all know LeBron racked up individual accomplishments whole chokin the playoffs year in and year out...but Kobe, in his prime, was flawless. u cant say that about LeBron...he only started showing a killer instinct very recently. lets not get ahead of ourselves, my dude.
Quote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 04:19:43 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.I do believe Bron is better. More MVPs, more all NBA first teams, and all around better in basically every statistic category. And you know Kobe aint winning a title without Shaq during this period, you cant even argue that. Give your head a shake.
Quote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.
have a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.html
Shaq carried them. Shaq left, won a ring somewhere else with a SG worse than Kobe. While Kobe was in the same situation LeBron was in for seven years & couldn't finish .500. Now Phil is gone & he's still under .500 with the most talented roster in the league. It's really not debatable. Then he bitched & moaned to Buss until they stole Pau, had BY FAR the most talented team in the NBA, especially in the West that consisted of Dirk choking, an injured Spurs team, Nash's defenseless Suns & then...everybody else in the West & just the Celtics & LeBron in the East. Couldn't even beat the Celtics in the first series, then got lucky the Magic outplayed the Celtics the next year & then in the third year, if it wasn't for Pau grabbing 18 rebounds in a game where Kendrick Perkins was out probably wouldn't have even won that time. Then the league got a little more balanced. The Mavs got help around Dirk who didn't choke, OKC emerged, the Spurs got healthy, the Grizzles & Clippers were becoming stronger & Kobe had more of a challenge of people to get through & couldn't do it.All facts, that simply cannot be disputed.
Quote from: NIKCC on February 16, 2013, 12:22:29 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 16, 2013, 04:17:05 AMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 07:33:47 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 06:33:29 PMQuote from: NIKCC on February 15, 2013, 04:19:43 PMQuote from: PLANT on February 15, 2013, 11:40:09 AMhave a look at this....compares MJ, LeBron and Kobe after first 9 years in NBApretty clear Bron is much better than Kobe, and GOAT is much better than both.http://www.thescore.com/buzz/articles/442309-mj-vs-kobe-vs-lebronFor more of MJ's playoff dominance, check this outhttp://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--infographic--michael-jordan-s-playoff-dominance-173638437.htmllmaolebron has a rookie of the year and more mvps in that timeframe...he must be better!smh if u really believe bron was better than kobe in their first 9 years.I do believe Bron is better. More MVPs, more all NBA first teams, and all around better in basically every statistic category. And you know Kobe aint winning a title without Shaq during this period, you cant even argue that. Give your head a shake.yea, because Kobe sacrificed INDIVIDUAL stats and accomplishment for titles, since he played next to Shaq during a good portion of his prime....horrible reason to claim LeBron is better. we all know LeBron racked up individual accomplishments whole chokin the playoffs year in and year out...but Kobe, in his prime, was flawless. u cant say that about LeBron...he only started showing a killer instinct very recently. lets not get ahead of ourselves, my dude.Do you really think Kobe sacrificed his field goal % to win championships? Cmon man. Or did Kobe get less rebounds and assists to make the team better? Getting more boards and dimes simply makes your team better, point blank. And the fact is, LeBron is better at getting them, as well as scoring with a much higher efficiency. If anything, Kobe should have been the most efficient scorer of the 3 since he played with Shaq who was the one getting double-teamed all game.kobe has a lower fg% because he is a SHOOTER...deandre jordan also has a higher fg% than lebron, did u know that? lmao. and yea, lebron has more assists, because he's a PASS-FIRST player...kobe is the greatest scorer in the history of the league, so of course his assists will be lower when he's typically looking to SCORE FIRST. fact of the matter is, Kobe sacrificed MVPS, scoring titles, and all sort of indivudal accolades to play alongside Shaq and win TITLES. lol, come on, now, if Kobe played on a team like the Cavs in 2002, he woulda averaged 40 points Dude, your "so-called" greatest scorer in the history of the league averaged over 5 PPG than King James in his first 9 seasons. Thats pretty ignorant of you to disrespect the REAL greatest scorer, MJ. Kobe is a shooter? Hes been a slasher and drive guy first his entire career. Ray Allen is a shooter. Kobe aint no shooter. If LeBron took as many shots per game as Kobe, he would easily lead the league every year. LeBron is a better player bro, straight up. I know its eating you up, its got to be killing you inside right now.
Ya, its exactly what Im claiming. LeBron James right now, is a better player than Kobe in his prime.
^^^^^^^^^loool at NICC - he would eat shit if Kobe would make it on his chest like Classic with TI :d
kobe is the greatest scorer in the history of the league
yea, every1 must sacrifice to win, unless ur like jordan and u have everything built around you LOL. really, though, playing alongside Shaq is like nothing else, because he was the most demanding player in the history of the league...even when phil jackson wanted to run the offense through kobe, shaq threatened to not play d and rebound if it didnt run through him, and he got his way.lebron is all-around better in what way? because he rather pass than shoot? kobe made 12 all-defensive teams...kobe could lead the league in assists if that were his game. is a prime lamar odom a better all-around player than kobe because he can pass and rebound better? LOL. thats a horrible argument... mietek, listen to ur idol....Kobe>LeBron, and thats where it ends.
Quote from: NIKCC on February 16, 2013, 12:22:29 PMkobe is the greatest scorer in the history of the leaguehe's one of the greatest scorers in the history of the league, not THE GREATEST ONE.Quote from: NIKCC on February 16, 2013, 12:26:22 PMyea, every1 must sacrifice to win, unless ur like jordan and u have everything built around you LOL. really, though, playing alongside Shaq is like nothing else, because he was the most demanding player in the history of the league...even when phil jackson wanted to run the offense through kobe, shaq threatened to not play d and rebound if it didnt run through him, and he got his way.lebron is all-around better in what way? because he rather pass than shoot? kobe made 12 all-defensive teams...kobe could lead the league in assists if that were his game. is a prime lamar odom a better all-around player than kobe because he can pass and rebound better? LOL. thats a horrible argument... mietek, listen to ur idol....Kobe>LeBron, and thats where it ends. Right, because Michael didn't sacrificed anything to win. He just sit there and didn't do nothing in order for the Bulls to get a ring. Every team is built around a franchase player, just like the Lakers builded their team around Kobe when Shaq left. So stop be so dissrespectfull to Jordan in order to make a case for your idol and try to learn how to give credit when credit is due.Just cause someone's your idol dosen't mean you have to be on the same page with him every single time. And I don't agree with Michael on this one, even if he is my idol, my favorite player, the greatest player of all time and greatest athlete I ever saw in my life:Kobe Bryant is a better scorer than Lebron James, while Lebron James is a better all-around player. Just like Michael Jordan was a better scorer than Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, while Larry Bird and Magic Johnson were better all-around players than Michael Jordan.And THIS IS WHEN IT ENDS.
everyone knows Kobe was driving that three-peat team...
Quote from: NIKCC on February 16, 2013, 12:40:07 PMeveryone knows Kobe was driving that three-peat team...