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Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« on: April 03, 2013, 04:19:52 AM »
Pac always claimed in interviews that Biggie took the whole concept for ready 2 die and even his style from Pac. I have to admit I can't remember any tracks of BIG before his first LP

...can somebody post some tracks of BIG before he supposedly took his style from Pac?
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 12:09:03 PM »
Pac always claimed in interviews that Biggie took the whole concept for ready 2 die and even his style from Pac. I have to admit I can't remember any tracks of BIG before his first LP

...can somebody post some tracks of BIG before he supposedly took his style from Pac?

I'm as big of a Pac fan as anybody, but I never really bought the whole thing about Big biting Pac's style.  Pac said he told Biggie something like make his singles for the bitches and then he came out with "Big Poppa", but if anything that was Puffy's doing to get Big a hit with that style.

Pac also claimed that Big heard his OG versions of what later became R U Still Down, and that Big took his style and made his album all about death, so that Pac had to go in and change his album or something like that... doesn't make sense because Me Against The World also dealt a lot with the concept of Death.

 
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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 12:09:51 PM »
biggie ain't steal shit from pac.
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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 12:41:37 PM »
I'm not saying that Biggie stole anything from Pac, but I get what he meant.  Pac did talk about how different Party & Bullshit was compared to Biggie's later stuff.  Additionally, Ready to Die was split up into two main sessions... which is why some of the stuff sounds gutter, and then some of it sounds like typical Bad Boy sample-heavy shit... because the gutter stuff was recorded in 1993, and the smoother stuff that composed most of the radio singles was recorded later on in late 1993/early 1994.  The subject matter involved in a lot of the stuff from the second session wasn't the same style and was about

What Pac said about having to update his album was a little bit exaggerated, but there was a song/interlude (Time to Get My Drank On) that had that used the same sample ("Between the Sheets") as Big Poppa, so maybe that was one of the tracks that they had to hold back.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 12:47:11 PM »
I'm not saying that Biggie stole anything from Pac, but I get what he meant.  Pac did talk about how different Party & Bullshit was compared to Biggie's later stuff.  Additionally, Ready to Die was split up into two main sessions... which is why some of the stuff sounds gutter, and then some of it sounds like typical Bad Boy sample-heavy shit... because the gutter stuff was recorded in 1993, and the smoother stuff that composed most of the radio singles was recorded later on in late 1993/early 1994.  The subject matter involved in a lot of the stuff from the second session wasn't the same style and was about

What Pac said about having to update his album was a little bit exaggerated, but there was a song/interlude (Time to Get My Drank On) that had that used the same sample ("Between the Sheets") as Big Poppa, so maybe that was one of the tracks that they had to hold back.
at that point ready to die did like 2 mill pac's first platinum album was me against the world. so why would biggie feel the need to steal from pac of all people ?
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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 12:49:41 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2013, 02:38:58 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.

no 2pac was not . 2pac never stole anything.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 02:42:05 PM »
Pac always claimed in interviews that Biggie took the whole concept for ready 2 die and even his style from Pac. I have to admit I can't remember any tracks of BIG before his first LP

...can somebody post some tracks of BIG before he supposedly took his style from Pac?

I'm as big of a Pac fan as anybody, but I never really bought the whole thing about Big biting Pac's style.  Pac said he told Biggie something like make his singles for the bitches and then he came out with "Big Poppa", but if anything that was Puffy's doing to get Big a hit with that style.

Pac also claimed that Big heard his OG versions of what later became R U Still Down, and that Big took his style and made his album all about death, so that Pac had to go in and change his album or something like that... doesn't make sense because Me Against The World also dealt a lot with the concept of Death.

 
no ,you don't even have facts right . biggie could only free style not make a song . so 2pac tought biggie how to write a song . bigie did not know how to do hooks or any pf that stuff. Biggie was known bitter in first place with bitting big daddy kane's flow. if you notice ready to die sounded like me against the world.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 02:43:54 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.

no 2pac was not . 2pac never stole anything.

yes he did.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 02:44:20 PM »
biggie ain't steal shit from pac.
yes he did . know your facts before you speak
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 02:45:43 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.

no 2pac was not . 2pac never stole anything.

yes he did.
no he did not steal anything & the facts even say so . so new school you have no idea what you are talking about. biggie was known for stealing.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 02:51:24 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.

no 2pac was not . 2pac never stole anything.

yes he did.
no he did not steal anything & the facts even say so . so new school you have no idea what you are talking about. biggie was known for stealing.

hey i am so old school hip hop dust comes out my ass when i fart.
2pac stole from biggie and everyone knows it, he even bragged about it.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 02:58:25 PM »
if anything Pac was the one doing the stealing.

no 2pac was not . 2pac never stole anything.

yes he did.
no he did not steal anything & the facts even say so . so new school you have no idea what you are talking about. biggie was known for stealing.

hey i am so old school hip hop dust comes out my ass when i fart.
2pac stole from biggie and everyone knows it, he even bragged about it.
yes , i am old school hip hop . because of that i know the facts & i know more then you . 2pac never stole anything from Biggie . Biggie stole from 2pac & big dady kane . Those are facts .unarguable facts !  2pac never ever bragged up it ,liar.  you have no clue or idea what you are talking about . also get biggie dick out of you mouth . biggie almost killed hip hop.
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2013, 02:59:31 PM »
well Biggie did take a few samples that came up on original versions of songs after Pac's death


but i think was Pac was referring to is the making a few female friendly songs instead of being a gangster like PArty and Bullshit and Dead Wrong which were some of Biggie's earlier demos
 

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Re: Did Biggie really steal Pac's style / ideas?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2013, 03:00:46 PM »
biggie ain't steal shit from pac.
yes he did . know your facts before you speak
i know the facts that's why i'm speakin'.
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