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It's actually not a bad idea. And if you ever go into a California classroom, it's not often the teacher who gets the brunt of the abuse, it's the student to student stuff, like fighting and students with drugs and stuff like that, that gets them suspended. I got suspended for fighting, and one time playing a prank on another student. But never did I do anything to a teacher.In fact, in Los Angeles, they'd rather have a hard ass teacher who'll control the class than a good teacher who might lose control. My cousin who's a teacher said if you want to be a teacher in LA, you have to be ready to be a classroom manager, the district figures the learning will come.But let's be real here as well. LA schools are not like the 90's. In fact LA schools have been doing better and better each year when it comes to discipline issues. We'd like to think of LA as some Dangerous Minds type environment, but the reality is that things have changed for the better in terms of classroom management there. Maybe not in education, but the classroom theory is working in terms of less classroom issues. Now test scores are still way down, but isn't that what we want? Dumb people who will listen.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 16, 2013, 09:46:33 AMIt's actually not a bad idea. And if you ever go into a California classroom, it's not often the teacher who gets the brunt of the abuse, it's the student to student stuff, like fighting and students with drugs and stuff like that, that gets them suspended. I got suspended for fighting, and one time playing a prank on another student. But never did I do anything to a teacher.In fact, in Los Angeles, they'd rather have a hard ass teacher who'll control the class than a good teacher who might lose control. My cousin who's a teacher said if you want to be a teacher in LA, you have to be ready to be a classroom manager, the district figures the learning will come.But let's be real here as well. LA schools are not like the 90's. In fact LA schools have been doing better and better each year when it comes to discipline issues. We'd like to think of LA as some Dangerous Minds type environment, but the reality is that things have changed for the better in terms of classroom management there. Maybe not in education, but the classroom theory is working in terms of less classroom issues. Now test scores are still way down, but isn't that what we want? Dumb people who will listen.So your argument is that teachers dont get the "brunt of the abuse"? Dont you get it mdogg, students abusing other students IS defiance of teachers, and sometimes best fits into this category. Taking this away does nothing but placate the masses who believe that failure of certain groups is due to racism. Another "PC" move by a school board who has deluded education by deluding the rules in the educational setting and giving kids more free reign to do as they please. Taking away reasons to kick kids out of class wont make them any better behaved, only better suited to maneuver the system, which is ok I guess, since many of these students will be manipulating the justice system in no time anyway.If you really think that these students are being unnecessarily suspended then the problem is the administration who is signing off and most times administering the punishment. But we all know that usually isnt the case. Sure theres the exceptions, but to act like the school system is systematically suspending kids for no reason suggests a problem with the kinds of people working in the schools not the rules themselves (if this were true, and be honest, it aint).
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lausd-suspensions-20130515,0,442761.storyThe story is about the LA union school district no longer allowing schools to suspend students for "defiance".The article cites minority students being disproportionately effected by suspensions as the main reason the school board voted this decision in.So a larger number of minority students are acting up, getting suspended, and now all students will have free reign to openly defy teachers and not be removed from the educational setting in order to make things "fair". Im sure these kids will learn their lessons through love (no pedo) and hugs from campus supervisors and Los Angeles' schools and especially minority students will be saved.
Quote from: Russell Bell on May 16, 2013, 12:48:12 AMhttp://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lausd-suspensions-20130515,0,442761.storyThe story is about the LA union school district no longer allowing schools to suspend students for "defiance".The article cites minority students being disproportionately effected by suspensions as the main reason the school board voted this decision in.So a larger number of minority students are acting up, getting suspended, and now all students will have free reign to openly defy teachers and not be removed from the educational setting in order to make things "fair". Im sure these kids will learn their lessons through love (no pedo) and hugs from campus supervisors and Los Angeles' schools and especially minority students will be saved. lmao this is hilariouswhere i'm from u act up and then u get ISS or OSS and i guess it depends on your parents as whether u learn from it or not
Most of the struggling state economies are in liberal shitholes like California. Too many low life bums who wanna benefit off the next mans hard work. You couldn't pay me enough to live in LA or SF.
Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on May 20, 2013, 12:41:36 PMMost of the struggling state economies are in liberal shitholes like California. Too many low life bums who wanna benefit off the next mans hard work. You couldn't pay me enough to live in LA or SF. California had Republican governors from 1983-2011, minus Grey Davis for 5 years. In that time the Republican party completely FUCKED up California. When Pete Wilson left, the school systems were overcrowded and falling apart, test scores were in the bottom 3 states (in 1983 California was in the top 10 in education) and California was facing a huge water and power problem. Grey Davis tried to fix the mess but to do so he took out bonds to put California in debt (the reason things were falling apart was because the Republicans didn't spend, so they had a balance budget but California was a shit hole) When Davis won re-election the Republicans pushed to get him recalled, enter Arnold who was the worst governor in California state history, and the rest writes itself. To be fair to Jerry Brown, he now has California with a surplus and in position to pay off the debt. It was very painful but California is headed in the right direction.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 20, 2013, 01:07:45 PMQuote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on May 20, 2013, 12:41:36 PMMost of the struggling state economies are in liberal shitholes like California. Too many low life bums who wanna benefit off the next mans hard work. You couldn't pay me enough to live in LA or SF. California had Republican governors from 1983-2011, minus Grey Davis for 5 years. In that time the Republican party completely FUCKED up California. When Pete Wilson left, the school systems were overcrowded and falling apart, test scores were in the bottom 3 states (in 1983 California was in the top 10 in education) and California was facing a huge water and power problem. Grey Davis tried to fix the mess but to do so he took out bonds to put California in debt (the reason things were falling apart was because the Republicans didn't spend, so they had a balance budget but California was a shit hole) When Davis won re-election the Republicans pushed to get him recalled, enter Arnold who was the worst governor in California state history, and the rest writes itself. To be fair to Jerry Brown, he now has California with a surplus and in position to pay off the debt. It was very painful but California is headed in the right direction.MDogg, thats completely misleading. Saying republicans put us in this place is not correct. Who is ruining education with stupid policies like the one in my OP? Who wants to build a bullet train so her husband can get paid? Who wants higher taxes that drive out business and jobs?What about the state legislature who makes the rules, what political party are most of them? exactly.
I don't know a single person who would consider California a conservative state. LA and SF specifically are liberal shitholes. Y'all elected Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger, a guy who has made a living out of being a professional liar / actor. I don't give a fuck if he is R or D, that's just dumb.
Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on May 20, 2013, 03:21:28 PMI don't know a single person who would consider California a conservative state. LA and SF specifically are liberal shitholes. Y'all elected Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger, a guy who has made a living out of being a professional liar / actor. I don't give a fuck if he is R or D, that's just dumb. Fucking truth, I live about 20 mins from SF, and I will tell you that almost the entire bay area is on some hippy shit. This state is fucked up for a lot more reasons than a republican governor. MDOGG keep those one line talking points movin bra.
Quote from: Ghost Drebin on May 20, 2013, 03:31:06 PMQuote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on May 20, 2013, 03:21:28 PMI don't know a single person who would consider California a conservative state. LA and SF specifically are liberal shitholes. Y'all elected Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger, a guy who has made a living out of being a professional liar / actor. I don't give a fuck if he is R or D, that's just dumb. Fucking truth, I live about 20 mins from SF, and I will tell you that almost the entire bay area is on some hippy shit. This state is fucked up for a lot more reasons than a republican governor. MDOGG keep those one line talking points movin bra.LMAO... I lived Inland. SF and the Bay were once the exception to the rule, The IE, Sac-Town, OC, SD, Bakersfield, Central Valley, anything north of the Bay, the High Desert, Palm Springs, those are ALL conservative areas!California pre 1990's when the Republican party went nuts.California in 1996, when Latino voter turnout went up thanks to the backlash of Prop. 187.California now