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oops i meant truman
Quote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:04:12 PMPS: As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki...that was a long goddamn time ago. Japan attacked the U.S. without warning, killing thousands and taking out a large part of our naval fleet. fdr knew that japan would attack... take a course on historyyou should...it was TrumanQuote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:04:12 PMSo we bombed them twice, knowing that one time was not enough for their surrender. you didn't bomb anyone.Noone likes a smartass Quote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:04:12 PMYes, innocent people did parish and it was a horrible thing. BUT, if the U.S. really wanted to make Japan suffer, we would've bombed Tokyoman....i'm impressed by your ruthlessness... pure fascismI'm impressed by your ignorance. I just said innocent people dying was a horrible thing...dumbassQuote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:04:12 PMWe took out Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they were places of military intelligence, NOT because they were just cities with lots of people in it.again, you didn't do anything..... besides, PLEASE take a course on history.... please...... really.... hiroshima and nagasaki were places of military intelligence? if stupidity hurt you'd be dead. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were WAR CRIMES. These cities were bombed to break the Japanese. Please take a course on history ...
PS: As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki...that was a long goddamn time ago. Japan attacked the U.S. without warning, killing thousands and taking out a large part of our naval fleet.
So we bombed them twice, knowing that one time was not enough for their surrender.
Yes, innocent people did parish and it was a horrible thing. BUT, if the U.S. really wanted to make Japan suffer, we would've bombed Tokyo
We took out Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they were places of military intelligence, NOT because they were just cities with lots of people in it.
Oh, and Agua is on point a lot; but I think to call FDR a war criminal is stretching a point. Desperation makes men do strange things, and in the long term, it DID save lives. However, were those American lives worth sacrificing the world's innocence for?
dont the president have the last word?? ... im pretty sure the president have the last word, specially when it comes to war..btw xearo...japan bombed military targets....america NUKED military target.... the biggest fool would understand that even if you NUKE military target, the ENTIRE are wil be afected... so the president and his "staff" KNEW that millions... and millions... (man i feel like the rock.. lol) of people would die becaue of that nuke they dropped...
WAR CRIMES? You wanna talk about war crimes? OK, let's talk about Germany's(your country) former Nazi leader who killed hundreds of thousands of Jews because he hated them.
BTW, I am in Global History 10 right now, learning about WWI...I'm so sorry I haven't leared all that much about WWII compared to your vast knowledge on everything.
Quote from: Owen on March 13, 2003, 06:39:07 PMOh, and Agua is on point a lot; but I think to call FDR a war criminal is stretching a point. Desperation makes men do strange things, and in the long term, it DID save lives. However, were those American lives worth sacrificing the world's innocence for?truman, not fdr - my fault. truman was really proud of the massacre. hence i think war criminal is an appropriate name for this guy. i agree that pearl harbor was a cowardish act (a war crime) - yet it was no reason to annihilate hiroshima and nagaski. since these places were inhabited by approximately 400000-600000 (correct me i'm wrong) people, the whole thing is such a contemptible atrocity - there is no excuse.
PS: It wasn't millions and millions(kinda do feel like the rock,lol) who died. From both bombings, around 250,000 died...not millions...
man....i'm impressed by pure fascism
Quote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:55:53 PMPS: It wasn't millions and millions(kinda do feel like the rock,lol) who died. From both bombings, around 250,000 died...not millions...what a difference...
Quote from: Agua on March 13, 2003, 06:59:57 PMQuote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:55:53 PMPS: It wasn't millions and millions(kinda do feel like the rock,lol) who died. From both bombings, around 250,000 died...not millions...what a difference... IGNORANCEIt is a big difference. A million people...let's see if I remember from math class...OH RIGHT1,000,000 people is 4 TIMES the amount of 250,000...that is a big difference...
Quote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 07:03:59 PMQuote from: Agua on March 13, 2003, 06:59:57 PMQuote from: Xearo on March 13, 2003, 06:55:53 PMPS: It wasn't millions and millions(kinda do feel like the rock,lol) who died. From both bombings, around 250,000 died...not millions...what a difference... IGNORANCEIt is a big difference. A million people...let's see if I remember from math class...OH RIGHT1,000,000 people is 4 TIMES the amount of 250,000...that is a big difference...you didn't even realize what i was aiming at.... poor fool
Heres another idea for everyone to think about...Let's say that the U.S. didn't drop the two atomic bombs. If they didn't, the war would've dragged on for at least another year.(Japan wasn't going to surrender after the first bomb...would they surrender if the US invaded? Probably not.)If the U.S. invaded Japan, thousands and thousands of lives would be lost in the first week. Japan would be bombing the US, the US would be bombing Japan...and this thing would've gone on for some time...all the while more and more people are dying.So, if 250,000 people died in the two bombings, compare it to the death figures that would've resulted if we didn't use the A-Bomb and the war would've dragged on for a much longer time. The difference between them may not be all that big.....