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Quote from: Russell Bell on June 06, 2013, 02:22:47 AMlol at "logical religion" what pills u be poppin, i gotta get me some of themA religion based around the creation worshiping it's Creator. Sounds pretty logical to me.
lol at "logical religion" what pills u be poppin, i gotta get me some of them
Quote from: Heinz on June 05, 2013, 11:49:48 PMThis is slightly off topic but relates somewhat to Syria and Islam.My friend Tariq who is a devout muslim once told me he believed that the prophet Isa (Jesus' name for muslims) was to return to earth in Damascus to kill Iblis the devil.And that Isa himself would die in this battle to liberate humans from the devils power.Its an interesting belief that I haven't come across elsewhere.Anyone know more about this theory? On the contrary, it is not off topic.You hit the mark there.But a little correction. If The Messiah Isa (Jesus) returns. In islamic EscatologyHe will not kill Iblis (Satan) but he will kill Dajal (The Anti-christ)It is not only Islam that believes that the Messiah wil return, Christians and jews believe that also.Although Jews will claim that the messiah Will be someone else and not Jesus.@ InfiniteYou are right no one knows when, Except God.But we have 2 differentiate between the end times (the Class between Truth and Falshood)And Day of judgement: Where we all face our responsibility for our mistakes and good deedsThe End times does not mean the End. There can be a lot of years, centuries or even thousand of years between that and the Day of judgement, God knows best.But that said, God gave us signs about the End time and our Prophet told us about them.I sum some interesting things he said:- "Women will be dressed and still be naked" ...tune in on your average Rap video and you will see- "There will be an age were people will compete in Tall Buildings".....Have you seen them?- "Men gonna dress like women and women gonna dress like men".... I need not explaining this.- "People are gonna fornicate in public like Donkeys" ...- "People gonna ride on a donkey with his ears stretched out wide through the air as fast as clouds" ....Fighter AircraftsI can go on.This is said more the 1400 years ago by a man who was illiterate and lived in the Desert-land of Mekka. You Might have heard of him, his name is Muhammed (saw)But I give you one sign.... That each and every one of you must remember.The jews were kicked out of the holy land.. By God.. according 2 their and our holy book.Why after 2000 years have they returned? Who returned them? Was it not forbidden for them 2 return?Why is Jerusalem NOW centre stage!!And I end with a translated quote from our holy book:"They have eyes but they cannot see. They have ears but they cannot hear. They have hearts but they cannot understand. They are just like cattle"No there is nothing wrong with your eyes or ears, but if your heart fails 2 understand....I pitty you
This is slightly off topic but relates somewhat to Syria and Islam.My friend Tariq who is a devout muslim once told me he believed that the prophet Isa (Jesus' name for muslims) was to return to earth in Damascus to kill Iblis the devil.And that Isa himself would die in this battle to liberate humans from the devils power.Its an interesting belief that I haven't come across elsewhere.Anyone know more about this theory?
I admit I don't know everything about Quadaffi, but from what I have read about his Green movement, and several other things including using gold backed currency, he was clearly an enemy of the west. As I said, I def don't know all the details, but in what way was he a tyrant?
Yes it was Dajal my friend mentioned not Iblis, my mistake I just remembered incorrectly.I read a book a few years ago written by a Christian scholar some 80-90 years ago (1925-1930) where he proved the validity of biblical prophesies and their manifestations.It was a quite systematic study he had done and it lead to a climax with prophesies written down that had NOT happened and those dealt mainly with the return of Christ and the Book of Revelation. He made some very interesting interpretations regarding what had to happen BEFORE Christ would return.This was right after 1st world war which many people took as a sure sign that Christ would return. He criticized them and said that WW1 did not fit any prophetic description.He also predicted the 2nd world war and warned that this would NOT be the war leading up to the second coming.Then he presented his theory of what had to happen before Christ would return.In short he said that Europe had to fall and that the leading factor would be Greece (if you look at what is taking place today, 80-90 years after he wrote it it is interesting).He also said that this was a smoke and mirror hiding the real Anti-Christ which would come from the east.I don't remember the exact wording he had but it was a pretty strong reference to China.He was very concerned with what you guys have said here: That NO ONE knows except G_d when the exact time will be.Anyways it was a thought provoking read.
Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on June 06, 2013, 09:02:21 AMI admit I don't know everything about Quadaffi, but from what I have read about his Green movement, and several other things including using gold backed currency, he was clearly an enemy of the west. As I said, I def don't know all the details, but in what way was he a tyrant? You know he is dead now, and it is for God 2 judge him.Even though he did a lot of good things, he helped a lot of Africa 2 be liberated, the gold that you mentioned.But Assad and Khaddafi although both are brutal against their Opposition. They do stand for something and you got 2 respect that. They don't bow 2 the West.
Lol I'm well aware he's dead. I asked how he was a tyrant. If you actually read about his Green movement (had nothing to do with the environment btw), it is obvious he was a very smart and beloved by his people. Did you see what NATO did to him? They sodomized him with a knife before killing him and filmed the whole thing. Of course he was brutal to his opponents, he was constantly under attack from the West.
My points infinite have been well articulated by other muslims who have responded on this thread. However to summarise, it's disgusting that not only is there western imperialism, there is also islamic imperialism, in which the Syrians are viewed as evil scum of the earth who must be forced to accept the "purity" of Islam or be executed. Furthermore it's all the more ironic and revolting that despite the so called anger of the muslims, that they are seemingly happy to allow western agents of influence to assist the Salafis in destroying fellow muslims. One of the reasons for the blow up in Turkey is because there are a lot of Syrians living there and yet.....I see no marches in this country from mulims, none, I hear muslims round my way speak about islam, this, islam that, which suggests to me that they have complete subservience to their religion which is in contrast to Syria where it was considered insulting to ask someone their religion.I find it to be the height of irony that Israel are assisting the islamic fighting groups on the ground, providing them with medical care and seemingly vehicles too. The israelies must be laughing so hard that their sides are splitting. Muslims are destroying each other while they sit back and watch, Hezbollah who were supposedly key to thwarting Israel in Lebanon are being killed now by other muslims and Israel did not need to lift a finger.The war in Syria will begin now to engulf surrounding muslim countries as the ordinary human muslims are set against the islamic nut jobs and once again....the western psychopaths did not need to lift a finger. No ground invasions, no air attacks or attacks from the sea, they are simply enabling the real terrorists to mass, equipping them, giving them logistical and tactical support and probably some actual support on the ground too.One of the end games here........if they are successful in murdering perhaps millions of people, then indeed the middle east will be run by extremists, extremists with the weaponry to bring down jet liners, to carry out real horrific acts of terrorism against western targets and what will the west do? ............Enslave us allFor beyond the psychopathic islamists, the elite really don't give a shit, christianity, islam, catholisicm.........The elite of the world really could not give a shit if Islam rules the world, for them it's all about power, nothing more, nothing less. This assumes of course that Russia and China sit idly back while the Middle East burns.God help us all
Hey Aladin, I watched the video, it mirrors my own fears, that this could be the lead up to the great war, a war which is engineered to allow for the surrendering of sovereignty to this global behemoth, and not simply the surrender but the dissolution. With regards to wahabbis.....I know that said groups have spearheaded them, financed them, mobilised them, but said wahabbi psychopaths will regard said groups as legitimate targets, they don't see the manipulation.I would even suggest this.......these groups would see the emergence of global government as a step closer to their ultimate dream? For example we know that my ilk aka the white man is dying out generation upon generation the numbers are shrinking, the jews....the population balance between arabs and jews heavily favours the former even inside Israel, so much so that Israel had to invite russian jews into Israel. Perhaps these psychopaths believe that an horrific loss of life would be a price worth paying for the population trends show that muslms are continuing to increase rapidly against Russia, all of Europe. Perhaps.....to these wahhabi's, it would be one of Israel's final shots and that once this global government has been fully furnished, they then have the apparatus necessary to establish their wet dream of a hardcore dictatorial Islamic global state.Thoughts?
You make a lot of good, cogent points there but I guess my stumbling block is this.......the masonic brotherhood encompasses people of all religions and it is my understanding that the arrival of this supposed Messiah will be all things to all people (all religions).Therefore....the Israeli destruction of islamic lands will be the catalyst for this.