Why doesn't Daz go back up

[love33]

Difference between g unit and dogg pound is that all of the artist had a fan base of their own, while Dogg Pound only had Snoop and Nate with mainstream success...and in 2013 tha dogg pound are only good as Snoops backup singers

You wouldn't put Kurupt in there as having some success? I mean, "Kuruption" went Gold and "We Can Freak It" was allover MTV.  His second album was his best IMO "Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha" was huge in the midwest and west.  That went Gold.  And "Space Boogie" had some nice shit on it.  Him and Nate had a hit "Behind The Walls" and it was played on MTV and the corny song "Itz Over" from Space Boogie was on TRL.  I think Kurupt deserves honorable mention and Daz used to have a sick flow and was a mad dope producer.  So if Daz was a Top 5 producer in the game, and Kurupt is considered by many (Notorious B.I.G. said Kurupt was the best freestyler he's ever heard in a radio interview), then doesn't that mean they got some success?

Now Bad Azz, Tray Dee, Lil C Style, Big Pimpin, Soopafly, etc....Those were all third stringers although I liked Soopafly's song on The Chronic 2000 and Lil C Style on MWC Soundtrack (I'm gonna bump that "Who Got Some Gangsta Shit" right now, one of the dopest songs ever IMO).

[Hack Wilson - real]

tray deee and soopafly were far from "third stringers"


same with Badazz

[Jimmy H.]

Well then that exactly proves my point and explains the skewed views.  No diss to Boston, but they catered to the Eastcoast stronghold on their radio stations for the most part.  Yeah, they played "gin and juice" and "doggy dogg world" in your territory.. but for the most part, this was at the pinnacle of the east/west rivalry and Boston was part of the East stronghold and their playlists were not filled with west artists and they def weren't spinning their second and third singles beyond the snoop and dre stuff (i.e. "Playa Hata" was a hit by Luniz, "Backyard Boogie" & "Nuthin But the Cavi Hit" were not played in the east region like they were in the midwest & west).

The midwest in the 90's catered mostly to the West Coast and the South catered half to the west and was trying to grow it's own talent but def influenced by the West.

And Daz's album "R.A.W." was at Best Buy in San Diego and L.A., and so was "2002" and "Young Gotti and Dillinger" ---- Also, Daz & Mack 10 both got a lot of radio love in the West.  In L.A., they have a station called KDAY I'm sure you heard of where Daz and Mack dime still get a substantial number of spins.

Of course you see history different you lived in a region that favored East Coast artists.  Just like if I lived in New Orleans, I'm going to hear Cash Money records 10 times more than they are already played.

Nope. You would be incorrect for the most part. For starters, you had brought up MTV, which is not run by regional affiliates like say, Fox network or ABC. It is national cable. Only thing controlled by regions is the few minutes of ad space they give local cable during the commercials. Every video that gets aired on MTV in California is shown in New Orleans, Boston, Delaware, and so forth.

In fact, the reverse of your statement would be more correct. If anything, your view is actually being skewed by living in the California region. Boston has never had a strong regional favoritism. They don't even play Boston artists on Boston radio. I can be a far greater judge of who had "crossover" success in that time period because I was over where they only played what was crossing over. West Coast artists breaking four singles in Sacramento isn't crossing over. It's playing your region. Boston is the other side of the country. You can't talk about who was mainstream in the 90's and then come up with reasons why a region wasn't there with it. Mainstream music is confined to nowhere. Coolio had four or five big singles in the same time that Dogg Pound was at their peak in sales and every one of those mother fuckers got ridiculous spins down here because those were Top 40 records nationally. Same with everything on The Chronic. All of Pac's shit. Snoop. Ice Cube. Rage even was getting some pretty decent spins with "Afro Puffs".

And "Playa Hata" never crossed over.  You can blame whatever system you want but it wasn't a national hit record. "Five On It" was.

[love33]

In fact, the reverse of your statement would be more correct. If anything, your view is actually being skewed by living in the California region. Boston has never had a strong regional favoritism. They don't even play Boston artists on Boston radio. I can be a far greater judge of who had "crossover" success in that time period because I was over where they only played what was crossing over. West Coast artists breaking four singles in Sacramento isn't crossing over. It's playing your region. Boston is the other side of the country. You can't talk about who was mainstream in the 90's and then come up with reasons why a region wasn't there with it. Mainstream music is confined to nowhere. Coolio had four or five big singles in the same time that Dogg Pound was at their peak in sales and every one of those mother fuckers got ridiculous spins down here because those were Top 40 records nationally. Same with everything on The Chronic. All of Pac's shit. Snoop. Ice Cube. Rage even was getting some pretty decent spins with "Afro Puffs".

And "Playa Hata" never crossed over.  You can blame whatever system you want but it wasn't a national hit record. "Five On It" was.

I am talking about your local radio stations in Boston and the radio stations out East.  Exactly proved my point -- Luniz charted #13 on the Billboard Top Rap Songs with "Playa Hata".  It also charted #4 on the Billboard Hot 100.  Of course it was a hit record!  "Hurricane" by The Click also topped out at #4 on the Billboard Top Rap Songs too!

[Sir Petey]

homie you need to step outside of your hip hop bubble.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Difference between g unit and dogg pound is that all of the artist had a fan base of their own, while Dogg Pound only had Snoop and Nate with mainstream success...and in 2013 tha dogg pound are only good as Snoops backup singers

You wouldn't put Kurupt in there as having some success? I mean, "Kuruption" went Gold and "We Can Freak It" was allover MTV.  His second album was his best IMO "Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha" was huge in the midwest and west.  That went Gold.  And "Space Boogie" had some nice shit on it.  Him and Nate had a hit "Behind The Walls" and it was played on MTV and the corny song "Itz Over" from Space Boogie was on TRL.  I think Kurupt deserves honorable mention and Daz used to have a sick flow and was a mad dope producer.  So if Daz was a Top 5 producer in the game, and Kurupt is considered by many (Notorious B.I.G. said Kurupt was the best freestyler he's ever heard in a radio interview), then doesn't that mean they got some success?

Now Bad Azz, Tray Dee, Lil C Style, Big Pimpin, Soopafly, etc....Those were all third stringers although I liked Soopafly's song on The Chronic 2000 and Lil C Style on MWC Soundtrack (I'm gonna bump that "Who Got Some Gangsta Shit" right now, one of the dopest songs ever IMO).

I remember hearing We Can Freak It, Behind the Walls and Its Over on the radio in the bay area. Can't ever remember hearing a Daz single.

[Sir Petey]

lol i love this thread title.


when cats fall off imma start saying that...


how come they dont go back up? why in the finals wont wade go back up? suge aint never goin back up.

[KURUPTION-81]

Daz was never famous or marketable, Kurupt had better success even on the east coast...but Daz as a solo artist was basically unknown

he only sold 84,000 copies of RR&GB the first week


Snoop sold like a million lol

Sales doesn't equal quality but doggystyle was a lot better than rr&gb

[love33]

I remember hearing We Can Freak It, Behind the Walls and Its Over on the radio in the bay area. Can't ever remember hearing a Daz single.

"Party People" was a pretty huge song in Los Angeles as a Daz single.  I wonder did they play "Party People" in the Bay?  What about "These Days" or "In California."

[Blood$]

lol i love this thread title.


when cats fall off imma start saying that...


how come they dont go back up? why in the finals wont wade go back up? suge aint never goin back up.

lmao

[Okka]

I remember hearing We Can Freak It, Behind the Walls and Its Over on the radio in the bay area. Can't ever remember hearing a Daz single.

"Party People" was a pretty huge song in Los Angeles as a Daz single.  I wonder did they play "Party People" in the Bay?  What about "These Days" or "In California."

"Party People"? What song is that?

[WestWestYA]

I remember hearing We Can Freak It, Behind the Walls and Its Over on the radio in the bay area. Can't ever remember hearing a Daz single.

"Party People" was a pretty huge song in Los Angeles as a Daz single.  I wonder did they play "Party People" in the Bay?  What about "These Days" or "In California."

"Party People"? What song is that?

its was the so so def album track with jagged edge

[Okka]

Oh yeah, that's the worst song on the album though.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

I remember hearing We Can Freak It, Behind the Walls and Its Over on the radio in the bay area. Can't ever remember hearing a Daz single.

"Party People" was a pretty huge song in Los Angeles as a Daz single.  I wonder did they play "Party People" in the Bay?  What about "These Days" or "In California."

No. I've never heard any Daz song.

[Sir Petey]

why wont chingy go back up?