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yeah Pacman vs Floyd would have been amazing 1-2 years ago.....right now it'd still be good but those two hate each other and will never agree on a date until they are both way past their primes
This fight with Canelo is going to be the biggest PPV in fight history probably, but it would've been nothing compared to what Floyd/Manny could've been.
The problem then was Golden Boy being upset with Manny that they were no longer able to get a cut of his fights, as Top Rank was his outright promoter (they used to split Manny). After that, the pissing match between Arum and De La Hoya started. Small time fights were being made and so on. So, the promoters screwed that up then. Now, Floyd is pissing all over the fight even though Manny is offering him a fair deal. Floyd will never accept someones offer, he feels he's lost then. The deal HAS to be in his favor and has to be his idea. So, it'll probably never happen.
MMA is basically mandingo cock fighting so you might get a response from Elanoi did watch the lsat Mayweather fight, hoping he'd lose
Quote from: Mr. Bones on August 29, 2013, 07:05:29 PMMMA is basically mandingo cock fighting so you might get a response from Elanoi did watch the lsat Mayweather fight, hoping he'd loseUFC is very entertaining, if all you can think of is "mandingo cock fighting" your heads in the wrong place bro. And to each his own but MMA is lightyears ahead of boxing in terms of entertainment.
Quote from: whoisthis on August 29, 2013, 07:34:40 PMThis fight with Canelo is going to be the biggest PPV in fight history probably, but it would've been nothing compared to what Floyd/Manny could've been.While I agree with the latter, I disagree with the former. Mayweather-Alvarez has no chance of beating De La Hoya-Mayweather as the biggest PPV fight in history. Alvarez doesn't have THAT big of a following, and the fact that HD PPV boxing fight prices (I hear that this one is supposed to be $75) isn't helping.
I agree though about the Floyd shit. But when he's undefeated and the biggest draw, it's kind of hard to convince him to let someone else dictate the terms. But it's still fucked up when he goes back on his word and puts up new roadblocks. But again, he's in a position to fuck with people like that.Though he needs to stop with the punk ass fights against lame opponents (i.e. Ortiz and Guerrero). But I don't doubt that Golden Boy is hoping to set up Mayweather-Khan at some point.
Quote from: Remedy360 on August 29, 2013, 11:05:45 PMQuote from: Mr. Bones on August 29, 2013, 07:05:29 PMMMA is basically mandingo cock fighting so you might get a response from Elanoi did watch the lsat Mayweather fight, hoping he'd loseUFC is very entertaining, if all you can think of is "mandingo cock fighting" your heads in the wrong place bro. And to each his own but MMA is lightyears ahead of boxing in terms of entertainment.It's run more efficiently because egos don't get in the way they do in boxing, especially with there not being the huge issue of promoters butting heads, or fighters not wanting to fight other fighters for whatever reason.
According everything I've read and things I've heard, this is definitely on it's way to being bigger than DLH/Mayweather. Sure, the Price is different, but in terms of total buys, CC in Vegas & Theaters, as well as Tickets being sold for the Live Event, it's got a strong chance. I am in L.A., so my perception is a bit skewed based on the demographics around me, but this fight is getting a lot of buzz. Canelo is the biggest Mexican Born fighter since Chavez. He doesn't have a huge following Nationwide, but amongst the Mexican Community is humongous. Remember, this fight is also taking place around Mexican Independence day. Mexicans are some of the most loyal consumers in Boxing.
Thanks for the breakdown. Obviously, we'll never know for sure, but if Margarito would've never cheated to beat Cotto that night, I think the world of Boxing would've been different today. What happened to Cotto that night pretty much ruined his career. He was never really the same after that.
This is the problem with Boxing. It'll always be this way. The Fighter holds all the power. In the case of Fighter vs. Fighter, the most popular always wins out. Golden Boy/Showtime know that there's just a small number of fighters even close to being ready to fight Floyd. They're throwing the hype machine around a lot of folks. I saw Khan fight Carlos Molina here in L.A. and he looked solid (plus Molina looked horrible). I also saw him fight Diaz. I think he needs to beat Alexander decisively to make me believe he's ready to fight a guy like Floyd.
I was at the Guerrero/Berto fight when Guerrero called out Floyd. I knew that was going to be a joke of a fight. Same thing with Ortiz. He wasn't ready.
MMA started like 20 years ago, right?
Quote from: whoisthis on September 03, 2013, 05:33:41 PMAccording everything I've read and things I've heard, this is definitely on it's way to being bigger than DLH/Mayweather. Sure, the Price is different, but in terms of total buys, CC in Vegas & Theaters, as well as Tickets being sold for the Live Event, it's got a strong chance. I am in L.A., so my perception is a bit skewed based on the demographics around me, but this fight is getting a lot of buzz. Canelo is the biggest Mexican Born fighter since Chavez. He doesn't have a huge following Nationwide, but amongst the Mexican Community is humongous. Remember, this fight is also taking place around Mexican Independence day. Mexicans are some of the most loyal consumers in Boxing.I can respect your opinion. Mine is just that it won't break it. While Mayweather is obviously bigger now than he was in 2007, he still had a very loyal following that was definitely not small. Oscar was the Golden Boy and always pulled in solid numbers and was a guaranteed PPV success, just like Floyd and Manny are today. Additionally, Floyd sold that fight extremely well... I remember watching the HBO 24/7s for that and thinking I was really entertained. I'm not saying that Canelo doesn't have a following, but it's not quite the same following that Floyd had for himself going into the De La Hoya fight. And it's not like Mexican boxing fans support Canelo (meaning that they actually buy his fight or attend it in person) far more than they have supported other Mexican fighters before him... Marquez, Morales, Barrera, etc. all had the support of the Mexican communities as well. But it was Oscar who was consistently a PPV smash. Marquez does numbers but not like any of the big (PPV) boys, and I'd say he gets more support from the Mexican community than Canelo does. But Mexican Independence Day doesn't really mean much, people say the same thing about Cinco de Mayo being such a big draw (and it is), so it's not like every Mexican holiday equates to huge numbers.