Lifestyle > Sports & Entertainment
Has Miguel Cabrera wrapped up the MVP award already?
Hack Wilson - real:
trout doesn't even have more home runs than mark trumbo
and RBI is not a BS stat, Trout just isn't G enough to bat 3rd like Miggy
MistaNova:
--- Quote from: Mr. Bones on September 13, 2013, 07:49:04 PM ---trout doesn't even have more home runs than mark trumbo
and RBI is not a BS stat, Trout just isn't G enough to bat 3rd like Miggy
--- End quote ---
RBI is a BS stat if you want to judge an individual player's performance on it. The only time RBI can be considered a legit stat is when you think of it as a team stat, nothing else. It doesn't show how good or bad a certain player is because any player, no matter how shitty, can get an RBI. Just look at the Astros, even they have players who have RBIs.
And the amount of HRs a hitter hits doesn't show he good he is either. If we were to judge players based on home run totals then Chris Davis would be the best player in all of baseball right now, and we all know who factual that is.
And yes Mike Trout is "G" enough to hit third in a good lineup. Just put 2 high OBP guys like Shin Soo Choo in front of him and let him drive those guys in. Some actual protection behind him won't hurt either.
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: Iveus on September 13, 2013, 08:00:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Bones on September 13, 2013, 07:49:04 PM ---trout doesn't even have more home runs than mark trumbo
and RBI is not a BS stat, Trout just isn't G enough to bat 3rd like Miggy
--- End quote ---
RBI is a BS stat if you want to judge an individual player's performance on it. The only time RBI can be considered a legit stat is when you think of it as a team stat, nothing else. It doesn't show how good or bad a certain player is because any player, no matter how shitty, can get an RBI. Just look at the Astros, even they have players who have RBIs.
And the amount of HRs a hitter hits doesn't show he good he is either. If we were to judge players based on home run totals then Chris Davis would be the best player in all of baseball right now, and we all know who factual that is.
And yes Mike Trout is "G" enough to hit third in a good lineup. Just put 2 high OBP guys like Shin Soo Choo in front of him and let him drive those guys in. Some actual protection behind him won't hurt either.
--- End quote ---
RBI says a lot about a guys value at knocking in runs
why do you think guys like Adam Dunn and Dave Kingman are worthless? because the only RBI they get are from home runs.
MistaNova:
--- Quote from: Mr. Bones on September 13, 2013, 08:38:29 PM ---RBI says a lot about a guys value at knocking in runs
why do you think guys like Adam Dunn and Dave Kingman are worthless? because the only RBI they get are from home runs.
--- End quote ---
No it doesn't. It just shows that the player who got the RBI put at least 1 run on the board.
RBI is a team stat because it takes a team effort to earn a lot of them. I'll use the Reds again. The only reason Brandon Phillips has as many RBIs as he does is because he's got Shin Soo Choo and Joey Votto, two very high OBP guys, batting before him and they're always on base. And just the other day the Reds tried having Phillips bat 2nd in their lineup and had Jay Bruce hit behind Votto. Lo and behold Phillips had zero RBIs to speak of while Bruce picked up at least 5 (I can't remember the exact number) in that game.
Bottom line, RBIs don't matter when it comes to judging players individually. They tell us absolutely nothing about how valuable they are to their team, just that they happened to make contact at the right time. If you think otherwise than you're too attached to all those "old-school baseball" cliches.
It's the 21st century, all those old stats like .AVG, RBIs, HRs, Wins, Losses, ERAs, SOs don't matter nowadays as they once did. There's all sorts of new stats now to help better determine how valuable a player is like babip, iso, so/bb ratio, those to show how valuable players are defensively like UZR and those to kind of show how valuable the player is the team like WAR.
Anyway, if you're looking for a stat that'll judge how good a player is in a "clutch" situation where the player could potentially get an RBI, there's this stat called .RISP (runners in scoring position) which measures a player's batting average with runners in scoring position. That's a lot more credible as an individual stat than RBI will ever be.
Halu Sination:
Trout is a much more complete player than Miggy and would have been MVP last year and this year if not for the fact that Angels are awful.
Miggy is the best hitter in the league, no question, but there's far more to baseball than just batting.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version