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Magic Johnson: "Michael Jordan couldn't run a team like I could"
Chamillitary Click:
You can't possibly say that. LeBron score ten more PPG, so the assist numbers balance out if you want to go statistically & as for "whose a better passer"...that's all subjective..."leadership & making others better"...pure ungradable intangible when comparing those two. How can you TRULY say whose better? Magic had WAY more help & WAY more of a complete team than LeBron does now....unless you're going to sink THAT low & say Bosh & Wade are better than Worthy & Kareem.
This is getting off topic anyway. I can understand those who aren't willing to say James has eclipsed Magic's accomplishments...but pure skill set it's identical...apparently enough to eclipse Jordan & those who played like him (Kobe).
Also the ring argument progressively is becoming more & more of a childish cop out to me. The fuck does it have to do with the skill set of player v. player & who has the better one? It's like saying Derek Fisher is a better shooter than Ray Allen because he has more rings. No one is asking whose accomplished more in the eyes of history...it's all about whose the better pure player.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2013, 09:02:20 PM ---You can't possibly say that. LeBron score ten more PPG, so the assist numbers balance out if you want to go statistically & as for "whose a better passer"...that's all subjective..."leadership & making others better"...pure ungradable intangible when comparing those two. How can you TRULY say whose better? Magic had WAY more help & WAY more of a complete team than LeBron does now....unless you're going to sink THAT low & say Bosh & Wade are better than Worthy & Kareem.
This is getting off topic anyway. I can understand those who aren't willing to say James has eclipsed Magic's accomplishments...but pure skill set it's identical...apparently enough to eclipse Jordan & those who played like him (Kobe).
Also the ring argument progressively is becoming more & more of a childish cop out to me. The fuck does it have to do with the skill set of player v. player & who has the better one? It's like saying Derek Fisher is a better shooter than Ray Allen because he has more rings. No one is asking whose accomplished more in the eyes of history...it's all about whose the better pure player.
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just stop
Mietek23:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on September 30, 2013, 04:36:19 PM ---The only problem I have is that the marketting media has brainwashed the masses and got the sheeple thinkin Jordan is on a level of his own, when he's really just a great in a line of greats who were all the absolute best at what they did
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You can say the same thing about today's media brainwashing current viewers about Kobe, Lebron and other players being greater than Jordan, Shaq and stars of yesterday.
Chamillitary Click:
It's true though. When it's clear you can't deny Bron's Hall of Fame skill, you just turn to rings.
Hence the example of Derek and Ray. It's like downplaying Allen's shooting ability by saying "yeah...but Fisher has more rings".
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Mietek23 on October 01, 2013, 08:30:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on September 30, 2013, 04:36:19 PM ---The only problem I have is that the marketting media has brainwashed the masses and got the sheeple thinkin Jordan is on a level of his own, when he's really just a great in a line of greats who were all the absolute best at what they did
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You can say the same thing about today's media brainwashing current viewers about Kobe, Lebron and other players being greater than Jordan, Shaq and stars of yesterday.
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LEBRON, YES...KOBE, NO. KOBE IS ACTUALLY DOWNPLAYED BY THE MEDIA, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT EVER SINCE THE RAPE CASE.
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