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Still I Rise - Everyone was satisfied with this one as well. The remixes only made the album better, in my opinion. The Outlawz must of made a fortune off this one. I know Suge signed them at some point, I wonder if it was for the purpose of their work on this album and other Pac posthumous albums. They were already on a lot of tracks, and when you add them to other Pac tracks it makes it sound authentic since they were his crew when he was alive. I think Death Row was responsible for this one.Until The End of Time - Again, everyone was satisfied with this album, I know I was. I couldn't believe that 4 years after his Death they were still able to compile a double album of his material that was as good or better than anything else coming out at the time. I think Johnny J deserves a lot of credit for Pac's posthumous work. Again, the remixes only made the album sound better... aside from Lil Mo', I think most everybody used on the album was someone Pac would of worked with while he was alive. They stayed true to Pac's vision, it was like a real Pac album. Not sure if Death Row or Amaru was responsible for this?
NOBODY wanted to hear Lil Moo rape 2pac songs.
I didn't like any of Pac's stuff being remixed, however, i thought they did a decent job on everything up to and including "Still I Rise". I was mad when "Secretz of War" came out remixed on that album though. Their formula used to be to remix a few songs and touch up the rest, leaving them close to OG.As soon as UNTIL THE END OF TIME came out, that's when everything went south, beginning with the title track with the sampled "Broken Wings" beat in which Pac's voice was horribly offbeat, it all went downhill after that. From that album on, it was "remix everything, maybe leave one or two songs close to OG" instead of the other way around.As much as i liked "Changes" I do think it was detrimental in that Afeni felt everything needed to be remixed because she found success ONE TIME remixing a song like this. It worked once, all the other remixes since then were worse for the most part.
until the end of time was NOT something everyone was satisfied with...that was when the pop remixes started and NOBODY wanted to hear Lil Moo rape 2pac songs.
now as for UTEOT this had some unforgivable butchers on it:1-this ain't livin (wack beat, removed lyrics)
Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on September 27, 2013, 10:55:29 AMI didn't like any of Pac's stuff being remixed, however, i thought they did a decent job on everything up to and including "Still I Rise". I was mad when "Secretz of War" came out remixed on that album though. Their formula used to be to remix a few songs and touch up the rest, leaving them close to OG.As soon as UNTIL THE END OF TIME came out, that's when everything went south, beginning with the title track with the sampled "Broken Wings" beat in which Pac's voice was horribly offbeat, it all went downhill after that. From that album on, it was "remix everything, maybe leave one or two songs close to OG" instead of the other way around.As much as i liked "Changes" I do think it was detrimental in that Afeni felt everything needed to be remixed because she found success ONE TIME remixing a song like this. It worked once, all the other remixes since then were worse for the most part. Still I Rise remixes were all acceptable EXCEPT Tattoo Tears and Secretz of War. Where this album was butchered was Hussein Fatal being removed from every song he was on (5 of them) and being replaced by inferior Outlawz.Fatal was buzzing as a solo artist at that time (underground hit single with Tame 1, collabos with DMX, Ja Rule and 3-6 mafia, signed to Rap-a-lot etc) but fatal fucked his career over by going to jail those 2-3 years. Ja tried to help him out by putting him all over that Blood In My Eye cd but Ja himself was about to be blackballed by 50 when that cd dropped.now as for UTEOT this had some unforgivable butchers on it:1-this ain't livin (wack beat, removed lyrics)2-lil homies (horrible beat, removed outro)3-when thugs cry (that hook is just fucking awful...beat isn't that bad)4-my closest road dawg (way to ruin those unleaked pac verses putting them over that wackass remix beat)5-the previously mentioned Lil moo track6-words to my first born...hate to say it but the DJ Quik remix took away the soul from the original of the track. 7-worldwide mob figgaz (too cheap to pay for the movie samples? young noble's horrible hook...)and i'll just stop there but i could pick on a few other tracks too....oh and on a personal note I hate how they took off Kadafi's verse from All Out.
Edgar Bronfman pushed for Makaveli to be heavily promoted while Jimmy Iovine was looking at ways to break ties with Death Row. This is why they only helped back one video for the album. Edgar's son Ben was a huge 2Pac fan, much like Ted Fields daughter Danielle had liked 2Pac's music. These old men didn't have a clue about Rap music and what would sell so went on the advice of their children for this genre. A formula that worked. Edgar was good friends and business associates with the main reason why 2Pac's music got any notable commercial awareness after 1998 and that man is Tom Whalley. Without him, 2Pac's music would have faded into a Pac's Life album but with more hurdled. Tom was able to smash down a lot of those hurdles and get 2Pac's video and music circulated a lot more than anyone else. He was the former CEO of Warner music group and had a lot of clout in the industry. Afeni, who wanted only the "angelic" music out was wanting that type of music out for a reason. The same reason that Jimmy dropped Death Row, and the same reason Tom Whalley and Afeni agreed only to put out 2Pac's music was because there was an agenda by the majors to criminalize rap music and to use 2Pac & Biggie as prominent examples of this. Tom's promotion of Tupac Resurrection was what finally caused the industry string pullers to force him out. He refused to agree to use Time Warner money to back real estate developers who were building prison complexes and extensions around the areas where Rap music was at it's height. Afeni was smart and knew what was going on, which is why she would block songs like "Watch Ya Mouth" or anything that could promote violence.It was after that, this 2Pac's music got less promotion, less airplay and TV spots because they didn't have the power and influence of Tom, Edgar, and other old school music heads. 2Pac was for most part - A fluke. They made the quick buck from him, and eliminated him because he knew what was going on in the Rap genre, and is the reason why he had so many on-record enemies to try and expose the rappers who promoted the agenda.This sounds like "conspiracy" nonsense, but it's very much real.