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Quote from: Sikotic™ on October 30, 2013, 12:44:18 PMand isnt the mark of the beast suppose to be placed in your hand and your head?and dont to use your smartphone with your hand and place it to your head?damn.....it might be time for Sik to go crawling back to Jesus...Funny, because I believe in God, but I don't believe the Anti-Christ will appear in my lifetime. THe Anti-Christ will come when we least expect it, and right now everyone is expecting it.
and isnt the mark of the beast suppose to be placed in your hand and your head?and dont to use your smartphone with your hand and place it to your head?damn.....it might be time for Sik to go crawling back to Jesus...
Quote from: NIKCC on October 30, 2013, 12:51:47 PMSik,u believe in God? I dont know what's out there or what happens after we die. What bugs me is people who act like they know. Like fundamental religious people who act like they are so sure of some shit written in a book thousands of years ago. Fuck Athiests too, who act like they know for sure that there's absolutely nothing out there going on. I've come to accept that I don't know whats going on. Hopefully when I die, I'll finally see what's goin on behind the curtain, and even then I may not. But if god or whoever wants to punish me and send me to hell because I didn't believe in him well then he can go fuck himself since he gave me the ability to think and use reason.Just my 2 cents.
Sik,u believe in God?
Quote from: Sikotic™ on October 30, 2013, 06:53:01 PMQuote from: NIKCC on October 30, 2013, 12:51:47 PMSik,u believe in God? I dont know what's out there or what happens after we die. What bugs me is people who act like they know. Like fundamental religious people who act like they are so sure of some shit written in a book thousands of years ago. Fuck Athiests too, who act like they know for sure that there's absolutely nothing out there going on. I've come to accept that I don't know whats going on. Hopefully when I die, I'll finally see what's goin on behind the curtain, and even then I may not. But if god or whoever wants to punish me and send me to hell because I didn't believe in him well then he can go fuck himself since he gave me the ability to think and use reason.Just my 2 cents. God is somethin u feel in ur heart n soul, has nothin to do with ur brain .. Not tryna put any labels on ya, but ur views sound pretty agnostic, am I wrong?
Quote from: M Dogg™ on October 30, 2013, 02:04:11 PMQuote from: Sikotic™ on October 30, 2013, 12:44:18 PMand isnt the mark of the beast suppose to be placed in your hand and your head?and dont to use your smartphone with your hand and place it to your head?damn.....it might be time for Sik to go crawling back to Jesus...Funny, because I believe in God, but I don't believe the Anti-Christ will appear in my lifetime. THe Anti-Christ will come when we least expect it, and right now everyone is expecting it.In all honesty, there have been way worse tumultuous periods in human history that would seem more fitting for an anti Christ to rise than what we're living through today.But by saying that, doesn't it make it more likely that Obama the Antichrist will reveal himself........oh shit!
Quote from: NIKCC on October 31, 2013, 08:29:28 AMQuote from: Sikotic™ on October 30, 2013, 06:53:01 PMQuote from: NIKCC on October 30, 2013, 12:51:47 PMSik,u believe in God? I dont know what's out there or what happens after we die. What bugs me is people who act like they know. Like fundamental religious people who act like they are so sure of some shit written in a book thousands of years ago. Fuck Athiests too, who act like they know for sure that there's absolutely nothing out there going on. I've come to accept that I don't know whats going on. Hopefully when I die, I'll finally see what's goin on behind the curtain, and even then I may not. But if god or whoever wants to punish me and send me to hell because I didn't believe in him well then he can go fuck himself since he gave me the ability to think and use reason.Just my 2 cents. God is somethin u feel in ur heart n soul, has nothin to do with ur brain .. Not tryna put any labels on ya, but ur views sound pretty agnostic, am I wrong? If you wanna put em in a category, they would most closely fit under agnostic I guess. And again, that's just how I see things. I don't have the ego to say I'm right about this. I don't think anyone knows the full story and I don't care what anybody else believes as long as theyre not a dick about it or try to force it on other people. If it makes you a better person then good for you.A lot of atheists who wish for the downfall of all religions are idiots. I know a lot of people personally who are better people because they believe in God or Jesus or Allah or whatever. Doesn't mean I agree with any of those beliefs either, but I can respect how it affects some people in a positive way.
Well the question is do you believe we live in a moral society.The answer for those who believe will say yes.We have a moral society were we have 2 face consequences for our actions in this life or what comes after.
The second question is what is the purpose of life.If we believe in nothing then all we have is to satisfy our present as much as we can.You know the term you only live once.
Since religion has been dealt with in the west. The West has been on a moral decline for quite some time now.The Morals and values of our forefathers gets thrown out and replaced with new ones.
The consequence of that is that the women in the west are 2 busy with their career and looks and short-time relationships that they no longer produce that many babies. The west is growing grey and with no replacement in sight. Even the staunched secularist will admit that.
In sort we are realy floating without knowing where were heading.
Yesterday marriage was between a man and a woman. today they are obsessed awith gay marriage.Maybe tommorow the decisionmakers will fight for the right of people marrying their pet.
Today they say abortion should be free available. Tommorow we will say that the right 2 have children should be defined by certain criteria.
Problem with our society is this, we don't have a universal framework in which we can maneuver.If Tommorow the so called intellectuals decide what the new normal is. The laws wil change with it.
God is not your enemy.
He created this world and you. And knows what is best for you.God forbid usery, (Christian Europe used 2 fight against Usery).God commanded us to honour your parents.God commanded us to treat people like you yourself want to be treatedGod commanded us not to deceive and lie.God commanded us not to be arrogantGod commanded us to marry and have childeren.
But we the arrogant ones think that we don't need god's laws and we can do fine by ourselfs.We have ourselfs 2 blame, no one else!God is merciful and all forgiving. If we turn to him and ask him for guidance, there wil be no one on this world 2 fool us.Forget these lunatics who do all kind of Godless things in the name of religion.
Coming to an end now, I don't think you can simply claim morals for god and then dismiss all those lunatics as if it has absolutely nothing to do with each other. Then again, there would be one way to do that. Acknowledging all the good people that don't believe in god as much as the bad ones that don't. Only, that would once more imply that there are just people who act based on morals and those who don't and that strongly points to what I'm saying all along.Morals don't require god and religion and the abscence of both doesn't lead to mankind's downfall as an inevitable consequence of atheism.Peace
God is the "sun", it is the 'higher' power, and one that most worship on 'sun'day
Quote from: V2DHeart on November 05, 2013, 02:30:32 AMGod is the "sun", it is the 'higher' power, and one that most worship on 'sun'dayThe Prophet Abraham, in his early life worshipped the sun. But came to the conclusion that he is not worth being worshipped.This is not an attack on your believe just some questions.The Sun has a begining and it has an end. The Sun is created.Should we as human being worship other creations. Or Worship the Creator.The Creator who has no beginning and no end. He is above space and time (which are also creations.)His power is infinite.
Quote from: Fraxxx on November 02, 2013, 06:03:24 AMComing to an end now, I don't think you can simply claim morals for god and then dismiss all those lunatics as if it has absolutely nothing to do with each other. Then again, there would be one way to do that. Acknowledging all the good people that don't believe in god as much as the bad ones that don't. Only, that would once more imply that there are just people who act based on morals and those who don't and that strongly points to what I'm saying all along.Morals don't require god and religion and the abscence of both doesn't lead to mankind's downfall as an inevitable consequence of atheism.PeaceThank you for making time and your critique of mine statements.I would be lying if I said that people who do not believe are not good persons.I dare say that I know more atheist that are truthfull and honest then some believers I know.Also my christian and jewish brothers are not different then me.There are more ways to Rome then One.On the Moral law perspective, let us say that we agree to disagree.
Let's do that. Let me say, though, that I still believe the illusion of knowing the absolutes about what's right or wrong or what's good or sinning to be a dangerous one.