Looks like the Yankees are going to lose Cano.

[Chamillitary Click]

Reports are coming out their offer isn't what he wanted, then that they believe he's going to the highest bidder and now saying they don't think he's worth that much.

Unless he's a loyal nigga, peace out.

[MistaNova]

Should've traded him for another team's top prospects when we had the chance.

[Hack Wilson - real]

Should've traded him for another team's top prospects when we had the chance.

nah



if he goes then so be it...the Yankees clearly got the best years of his career.

[MistaNova]

Should've traded him for another team's top prospects when we had the chance.

nah

Nah? What do you mean nah?

The return the Yankees could've gotten for Cano would've been huge. It would've revived a piss poor farmsystem and provided some new building blocks for the next Yankees dynasty. Instead the Yankees pussied out and kept feeding their idiotic fanbase and the New York media false hope and kept Cano. Now they're trapped in a corner where if they have to re-sign Cano or else they'll get nothing but a compensation pick.

And the worst part is that even if they do resign Cano, the Yankees will still suck in 2014.

[Remedy360]

 

Yes I know the Mariners suck but this thread isn't about them.

[Hack Wilson - real]

the Yankees don't trade star players for prospects.

[MistaNova]

the Yankees don't trade star players for prospects.

I know, but in today's world they're going to have to start doing so. More and more players are locking up their players before they reach free agency, resulting in the abysmal free agent class we have this year, this is no longer an age where the Yankees can just go buy Troy Tulowitzki to fill the void left by Derek Jeter or buy Joey Votto to cover for Mark Teixiera's injury. They're going to need inhouse talent. Their last dynasty was built from within after all (Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Mo and Bernie) with some complemantary pieces around them.
That said, it's not like I want the Yankees to go 100% into prospects. Otherwise they'll end up like the Padres and Mariners where they have tons of promising talent that gets them nowhere.
Just put a little more energy into developing talent.

[Remedy360]

the Yankees don't trade star players for prospects.

I know, but in today's world they're going to have to start doing so. More and more players are locking up their players before they reach free agency.
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That's all there is to it, free agent classes are getting worse and worse, can't just go out and buy your team in the offseason anymore.

[Chamillitary Click]

Yeah you really can't. But those teams in the 90's weren't even bought. A-Rod wasn't even bought, technically. Those teams were built like the teams of today, it's just now today teams are throwing 20 year old phenoms out there.

It was that whole Giambi/Matsui/Tex/Randy/CC/Burnett era that the Yankees really started buying players out the wazoo.

But teams aren't retarded. Nobody is going to give away two-three top prospects for Cano to just go to free agency when the season is over anyway; unless he agrees to an extension.

[Remedy360]

I wouldn't even say y'all are out of it. Do you really think anyone's going to give dude 300 million? He's obviously a great player, but it's not like he's putting up numbers like A-Rod in his prime or something.

[MistaNova]

But teams aren't retarded. Nobody is going to give away two-three top prospects for Cano to just go to free agency when the season is over anyway; unless he agrees to an extension.

Considering that the Cubs got Mike Olt and CJ Edwards (two very good prospects) for half a season (a pretty bad second half at that) of Matt Garza, I'm confident the Yankees could've gotten something for Cano. At the very least one top 10 (in the organization) prospect and a couple of top 20/borderling top 10 guys thrown in.

Plus he would've been perfect for Texas if he had signed an extension. I mean the Rangers were going to lose even more members of their offense with the departures of David Murphy and possibly Nelson Cruz, adding an bat like Cano would've resolved a lot of issues for them. And yes I'm aware of the logjam they have with their middle infielders but Kinsler was going to move to the outfield eventually (it's only a matter of time) and the rumors of the Rangers going after Giancarlo Stanton by trading away Profar will never die and for all we know may one day happen.

I wouldn't even say y'all are out of it. Do you really think anyone's going to give dude 300 million? He's obviously a great player, but it's not like he's putting up numbers like A-Rod in his prime or something.

If you're referring to the Yankees's chances of resigning Cano, yes they're pretty big. Especially since the Dodgers are out of it now and the chances of the Cubs, Mets and Tigers swooping in are practically none. The problem is that resigning Cano won't make the Yankees any better in 2014. Even if the Yankees splurged and bought the key free agents like Cano, McCann, Jimenez, Ellsbury etc... the reality is that the '14 Yankees would still be a terrible team that would be lucky if they didn't end up 4th in the AL East.
The Yankees need to stop feeding their fans false hope and just let the Core 4 era die and start putting the pieces into play for the new core. Although judging from how their Hughes-Joba-Kennedy experiment and the Banuelos-Betances-Brackman experiment where the Yankees actually tried developing their next core ended up in complete failure, they REALLY need to start putting energy into actually developing raw talent. They had a good draft this year and international pick-ups like Leonardo Molina are a step in the right direction. If all goes right, they should be in the majors by 2019.

[Chamillitary Click]

I'm hoping Harper and Trout's contracts expire the same year.

I wouldn't even say y'all are out of it. Do you really think anyone's going to give dude 300 million? He's obviously a great player, but it's not like he's putting up numbers like A-Rod in his prime or something.

The way the Yankees are talking, they seem to believe that he's going to go to the highest bidder and pretty much admit they doubt they're the highest bidder lol.

I'm hoping he just stays loyal to the pinstripes and takes what he's offered rather than run off to some random city for the contract.

[Remedy360]

I'm hoping Harper and Trout's contracts expire the same year.

I wouldn't even say y'all are out of it. Do you really think anyone's going to give dude 300 million? He's obviously a great player, but it's not like he's putting up numbers like A-Rod in his prime or something.

The way the Yankees are talking, they seem to believe that he's going to go to the highest bidder and pretty much admit they doubt they're the highest bidder lol.

I'm hoping he just stays loyal to the pinstripes and takes what he's offered rather than run off to some random city for the contract.

I'd be shocked if Trout or Harper ended up going to FA. Unless they just don't want to be in Anaheim/DC those teams would be absolute fools to let talents like that go to the open market.

[MistaNova]

I'm hoping he just stays loyal to the pinstripes and takes what he's offered rather than run off to some random city for the contract.

He'd be wise to take the money and run. Bernie Williams chose to be loyal and he got ripped off.

And for the record I have nothing for or against Cano personally. But I do want him to just go away and let the Yankees crumble so they can finally focus on rebuilding and coming back with full force later.

I'd be shocked if Trout or Harper ended up going to FA. Unless they just don't want to be in Anaheim/DC those teams would be absolute fools to let talents like that go to the open market.

One of them will hit the market. Last I checked Harper was a Scott Boras client, Boras is notorious for persuading his better clients to go into free agency and get every last penny they can. And in Trout's case, the Angels might have so much money tied up with Albert Pujols and a bunch of other guys that they won't have any money left to resign Trout.

[Chamillitary Click]

I'm hoping Harper and Trout's contracts expire the same year.

I wouldn't even say y'all are out of it. Do you really think anyone's going to give dude 300 million? He's obviously a great player, but it's not like he's putting up numbers like A-Rod in his prime or something.

The way the Yankees are talking, they seem to believe that he's going to go to the highest bidder and pretty much admit they doubt they're the highest bidder lol.

I'm hoping he just stays loyal to the pinstripes and takes what he's offered rather than run off to some random city for the contract.

I'd be shocked if Trout or Harper ended up going to FA. Unless they just don't want to be in Anaheim/DC those teams would be absolute fools to let talents like that go to the open market.

I'd only be surprised because they're both still on their rookie deals & it's smart to grab the $200 million dollar+ offers they'll get from their teams instead of waiting to seasons end & risk a freak accident injury.