Suge Knight Reflects on 'Doggystyle' 20 Years Later

[Jimmy H.]

Idg it. It just sounds like to me, if you make the beat what's so got damn hard about producing it?

The beat is only a small portion of the production. That's kind of akin to asking what's so hard about directing a movie if you have a DP to direct the visuals, a writer to do the script, an AD to position everything, and actors to act. And what's so hard about being a lawyer when you have all these legal secretaries to do the research and prepare your notes?  What's so hard about being a coach when you have offensive and defensive coordinators helping you with the plays and players physically running them? 

[polepositon]

Listen. I like to keep it simple.

Dre, isn't, quik is. I know this is about daz and dre..but, to simplify, this..dre isn't and quik is.

To be honest..I shouldn't be in this thread. Cuz I don't get the dre hype. Never have, never will. And, we would go back n forth and so on and so on debating each others opinion.

And movies, that's entirely different.

You guys gave your thread I seem somethig far more interesting by tha kid2012.

[doublee313]

Listen. I like to keep it simple.

Dre, isn't, quik is. I know this is about daz and dre..but, to simplify, this..dre isn't and quik is.

To be honest..I shouldn't be in this thread. Cuz I don't get the dre hype. Never have, never will. And, we would go back n forth and so on and so on debating each others opinion.

And movies, that's entirely different.

You guys gave your thread I seem somethig far more interesting by tha kid2012.

What don't you understand?  Dr. Dre is a perfectionist, he takes something and makes it a masterpiece.  Keep Daz and Quik out of it.  They had a few hits, but nothing like Dr. Dre.  The Chronic/Chronic 2001, Doggystyle, are all SOLID albums because of Dre.

And it is like movies.  A lot of the time the actors tell the director "why don't we do this/that" and he does.  So do the actors get credit?  No.  The director and producers take what they want and put it together with their final touches.

Simple as that. 

[polepositon]

When I did I say I dont understand. I'm saying something that's apparently flying over your head. And you feel the same.

Ill fucking bring quik in it. And this is about daz as well. If u even read that that's what they are discussing?

But, sure. Ok. Whatever u say.

Maybe he wouldn't be as hyped of he wasn't taking up the ass by the corporates. They push in..and it "appears" he gives out.

And a little birdie told me something. But, it's all to the good. Nugga!

Tomato tamatoe.
Cherrio.

[doublee313]

When I did I say I dont understand. I'm saying something that's apparently flying over your head. And you feel the same.

Ill fucking bring quik in it. And this is about daz as well. If u even read that that's what they are discussing?

But, sure. Ok. Whatever u say.

Maybe he wouldn't be as hyped of he wasn't taking up the ass by the corporates. They push in..and it "appears" he gives out.

And a little birdie told me something. But, it's all to the good. Nugga!

Tomato tamatoe.
Cherrio.

I'm not trying to argue with you.  I'm just saying Dr. Dre will take things to the next level, and an album that plays through all tracks fitting together.  Listen to Daz's and Quik's stuff.  There are a lot of tracks that don't fit in, or just don't sound right.  It takes a person like Dre to coach the guys to make things flawless.  Dre will have artists doing 30 takes on one song.  Shit like that takes a special person.  Like someone giving him a soup broth, and he adds all the spices.

After All Eyes on Me, when Dre left, Deathrow wasn't the same.  Snoop's second album was a let down.  Snoop even said Dre helped him with That's That with R Kelly.  Took it and mixed it up to a totally different record.

You might not like Dre, but he's gifted and probably not putting out Detox because he is waiting for the right sound.  He won't just put out the 400+ tracks in his vault.  I wish he would, but that's just him.

I like Daz and Quik as well.  But I can't listen to a full album from them.  I just mix a bunch of tracks on my MP3.

[polepositon]

That's better. Your approach. Sound like u were.

Soooo, Um, yea.

I'm counting my paper right now.

But, at the same time.. I can't listen to a full dre album front to back soooo, I mean, where r we going with this?

I'm done. I don't like to debate too much. Especially when I can't be persuaded.

So, it is what it my nig.

I chilling to some music that tha kid2012 blessed me with, counting collard greens.

Ttyl.

[doublee313]

That's better. Your approach. Sound like u were.

Soooo, Um, yea.

I'm counting my paper right now.

But, at the same time.. I can't listen to a full dre album front to back soooo, I mean, where r we going with this?

I'm done. I don't like to debate too much. Especially when I can't be persuaded.

So, it is what it my nig.

I chilling to some music that tha kid2012 blessed me with, counting collard greens.

Ttyl.

You have every right to express your opinion and I respect that.  If you bump Quik, Daz, Dre, whatever, that's the nice thing about all the different tracks.  It's like hanging out with 6 of your homies and everyone wanting to put there jams on.  Fighting over the radio and shit. 

I was just putting my 2 cents in, and hopefully you respect that.  Not trying to change your thinking.  This thread is fucked up because Suge lies, Snoop lies, Daz lies, so who the fuck knows what these guys did.  Dre kept quiet because he doesn't want to debate like we are

[polepositon]

Well to be honest, not trying to be funny, but, at the end of the day, I don't give fuck about what anyone thinks.
I don't know why dre keeps quiet. I don't know him. I can't speak on that. But I can speak on what suge said since he said it. Like everyone else in this thread.
Yea of course u were not trying to change my mind. That won't happen. I've felt the way I feel about see since forever.
U dont have add smiley. I don't get upset or flinch or take to heart. U ain't gotta smile cuz u didnt upset me. Nothing on here upsets me. Shit, as I type on me I usually lol'n and laughing.
I know a lot of y'all be serious as hell on this site and that's cool.

I stand firm on mine so, its nothing.

But you don't ever have to tell me to not mention something or someone in a thread that they r being talked about (my daddy is dead) by other people and then say you're not trying to be on some bs cuz u singled ME out and so I knew it was on some cute shit. It's cute. All this shit cute.

At this point, honestly, u can have the last word.

I mean, lol, this is serious shit to y'all.

[jman91331]

Look this mf coming in "finally someone gets it" shut up. All bent outta shape. You shoulda just contributed instead of sitting back waiting. Sounds like maybe u didnt know shit. Or, maybe you're like dre,, let someone else do it all then come in like, yea, i did that.

Thanks UCC. Hmm, that just sounds like someone who can't make a beat but can just add a dash of this and that.

But, this is only my opinion. Not trying to argue.

Bitch shut me up. Who the fuck is you to tell me to shut up? I said what I said because I felt homeboy's post was right on point instead of ridin DJ Quik's dick like you do in every post. Just because you want the nigga's dick in ya mouth doesn't mean he's the greatest. The nigga is dope & all & I'm a big fan but damn let his dick breath a lil bit. We don't care that you have a crush on the man. This thread was about Suge, Snoop, Dre, & Daz but you somehow (like you do in every thread you participate in) make this about Quik & got the nerve to call yourself talkin shit to me kuz I agreed with homeboy. I agree because unlike most of y'all on here, he actually talks like he has a clue what goes on behind the boards. Your hero DJ Quik himself has said Dre is the greatest so how stupid do you look defending him? Everybody that say Dre didn't do this & didn't do that all are disgruntled ex associates that he don't fuck with & everyone else in the industry that has actually been in the studio with him can't stop talkin about how great he is. You see a pattern there? You act like Suge Knight's words os gold all of a sudden. Go back in check how many interviews before this where he sayin the most outrageous bullshit. You think he changed all of a sudden? Knock it off. He even had the dvd with them nigga's taking shots at your hero DJ Quik. Daz himself ain't never said he produced all of Doggystyle in fact I only heard him take credit for Ain't No Fun. & you talkin about Quik does it all from scratch on his own, if you would take his dick out ya eye & read some album credits you will see Robert Bacon & G1 are just as responsible for his sound that you love so much. I'm done...

[Mr. Theo]

Look this mf coming in "finally someone gets it" shut up. All bent outta shape. You shoulda just contributed instead of sitting back waiting. Sounds like maybe u didnt know shit. Or, maybe you're like dre,, let someone else do it all then come in like, yea, i did that.

Thanks UCC. Hmm, that just sounds like someone who can't make a beat but can just add a dash of this and that.

But, this is only my opinion. Not trying to argue.

Bitch shut me up. Who the fuck is you to tell me to shut up? I said what I said because I felt homeboy's post was right on point instead of ridin DJ Quik's dick like you do in every post. Just because you want the nigga's dick in ya mouth doesn't mean he's the greatest. The nigga is dope & all & I'm a big fan but damn let his dick breath a lil bit. We don't care that you have a crush on the man. This thread was about Suge, Snoop, Dre, & Daz but you somehow (like you do in every thread you participate in) make this about Quik & got the nerve to call yourself talkin shit to me kuz I agreed with homeboy. I agree because unlike most of y'all on here, he actually talks like he has a clue what goes on behind the boards. Your hero DJ Quik himself has said Dre is the greatest so how stupid do you look defending him? Everybody that say Dre didn't do this & didn't do that all are disgruntled ex associates that he don't fuck with & everyone else in the industry that has actually been in the studio with him can't stop talkin about how great he is. You see a pattern there? You act like Suge Knight's words os gold all of a sudden. Go back in check how many interviews before this where he sayin the most outrageous bullshit. You think he changed all of a sudden? Knock it off. He even had the dvd with them nigga's taking shots at your hero DJ Quik. Daz himself ain't never said he produced all of Doggystyle in fact I only heard him take credit for Ain't No Fun. & you talkin about Quik does it all from scratch on his own, if you would take his dick out ya eye & read some album credits you will see Robert Bacon & G1 are just as responsible for his sound that you love so much. I'm done...

If Robert Bacon and G1 are the responsible for DJ Quik tracks.. so let's get a list of responsible for Dr Dre hits..

It's so big that I'm not even gonna post here.

This commentary make no sense coming from a Dre fan .

[jman91331]

Look this mf coming in "finally someone gets it" shut up. All bent outta shape. You shoulda just contributed instead of sitting back waiting. Sounds like maybe u didnt know shit. Or, maybe you're like dre,, let someone else do it all then come in like, yea, i did that.

Thanks UCC. Hmm, that just sounds like someone who can't make a beat but can just add a dash of this and that.

But, this is only my opinion. Not trying to argue.

Bitch shut me up. Who the fuck is you to tell me to shut up? I said what I said because I felt homeboy's post was right on point instead of ridin DJ Quik's dick like you do in every post. Just because you want the nigga's dick in ya mouth doesn't mean he's the greatest. The nigga is dope & all & I'm a big fan but damn let his dick breath a lil bit. We don't care that you have a crush on the man. This thread was about Suge, Snoop, Dre, & Daz but you somehow (like you do in every thread you participate in) make this about Quik & got the nerve to call yourself talkin shit to me kuz I agreed with homeboy. I agree because unlike most of y'all on here, he actually talks like he has a clue what goes on behind the boards. Your hero DJ Quik himself has said Dre is the greatest so how stupid do you look defending him? Everybody that say Dre didn't do this & didn't do that all are disgruntled ex associates that he don't fuck with & everyone else in the industry that has actually been in the studio with him can't stop talkin about how great he is. You see a pattern there? You act like Suge Knight's words os gold all of a sudden. Go back in check how many interviews before this where he sayin the most outrageous bullshit. You think he changed all of a sudden? Knock it off. He even had the dvd with them nigga's taking shots at your hero DJ Quik. Daz himself ain't never said he produced all of Doggystyle in fact I only heard him take credit for Ain't No Fun. & you talkin about Quik does it all from scratch on his own, if you would take his dick out ya eye & read some album credits you will see Robert Bacon & G1 are just as responsible for his sound that you love so much. I'm done...

If Robert Bacon and G1 are the responsible for DJ Quik tracks.. so let's get a list of responsible for Dr Dre hits..

It's so big that I'm not even gonna post here.

This commentary make no sense coming from a Dre fan .

If you gonna quote me hommie, quote me right. I said JUST as responsible for the sound, not responsible (that make it sound like it's all them). Not too long ago Quik posted a picture him & Rob Bacon on twitter saying "the nucleus of the DJ Quik sound" & on the liner notes of Safe & Sound he thanks G1 saying "I would've put out a wack ass album if it wasn't for you" & this is coming straight from the man's mouth so I ain't makin the shit up. As much as you stan Quik on here I though you would know that. & I don't say that to discredit Quik's work kuz the nigga is amazing I'm just saying that to show the broad that started talkin shit to me on here for no reason that like Dre, her hero Quik also has people involved (as most great producers do) in a lot of those hits & not "all by him self" like she tends to think.

[polepositon]

you mad? you sound mad. 

u did shut up. i said that yesterday. you seen it then too.

i dont ride his dick. but, you sure do pay attn. thks baby. i love the kids.

lmao. 

[Mr. Theo]

Look this mf coming in "finally someone gets it" shut up. All bent outta shape. You shoulda just contributed instead of sitting back waiting. Sounds like maybe u didnt know shit. Or, maybe you're like dre,, let someone else do it all then come in like, yea, i did that.

Thanks UCC. Hmm, that just sounds like someone who can't make a beat but can just add a dash of this and that.

But, this is only my opinion. Not trying to argue.

Bitch shut me up. Who the fuck is you to tell me to shut up? I said what I said because I felt homeboy's post was right on point instead of ridin DJ Quik's dick like you do in every post. Just because you want the nigga's dick in ya mouth doesn't mean he's the greatest. The nigga is dope & all & I'm a big fan but damn let his dick breath a lil bit. We don't care that you have a crush on the man. This thread was about Suge, Snoop, Dre, & Daz but you somehow (like you do in every thread you participate in) make this about Quik & got the nerve to call yourself talkin shit to me kuz I agreed with homeboy. I agree because unlike most of y'all on here, he actually talks like he has a clue what goes on behind the boards. Your hero DJ Quik himself has said Dre is the greatest so how stupid do you look defending him? Everybody that say Dre didn't do this & didn't do that all are disgruntled ex associates that he don't fuck with & everyone else in the industry that has actually been in the studio with him can't stop talkin about how great he is. You see a pattern there? You act like Suge Knight's words os gold all of a sudden. Go back in check how many interviews before this where he sayin the most outrageous bullshit. You think he changed all of a sudden? Knock it off. He even had the dvd with them nigga's taking shots at your hero DJ Quik. Daz himself ain't never said he produced all of Doggystyle in fact I only heard him take credit for Ain't No Fun. & you talkin about Quik does it all from scratch on his own, if you would take his dick out ya eye & read some album credits you will see Robert Bacon & G1 are just as responsible for his sound that you love so much. I'm done...

If Robert Bacon and G1 are the responsible for DJ Quik tracks.. so let's get a list of responsible for Dr Dre hits..

It's so big that I'm not even gonna post here.

This commentary make no sense coming from a Dre fan .

If you gonna quote me hommie, quote me right. I said JUST as responsible for the sound, not responsible (that make it sound like it's all them). Not too long ago Quik posted a picture him & Rob Bacon on twitter saying "the nucleus of the DJ Quik sound" & on the liner notes of Safe & Sound he thanks G1 saying "I would've put out a wack ass album if it wasn't for you" & this is coming straight from the man's mouth so I ain't makin the shit up. As much as you stan Quik on here I though you would know that. & I don't say that to discredit Quik's work kuz the nigga is amazing I'm just saying that to show the broad that started talkin shit to me on here for no reason that like Dre, her hero Quik also has people involved (as most great producers do) in a lot of those hits & not "all by him self" like she tends to think.

OK homie, now I understood your point of view

[polepositon]

damn. so funny how quik just shits on dre.

stay pressed. idgaf. if that means i got a dick in my eye. then theres a dick in my eye.

  bwhahahaha. lmao. i wonder why they call me bitch.

you sure did put me in my place. salute.

he responding to you and still mentioning me. 

pacoima.

[Sccit]

doublee313 and jman know what they talkin bout