LeBron vs Kobe

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OUTSIDE OF 2009-2011 (THE YEARS KOBE OUTPLAYED LEBRON), LEBRON ALWAYS HAD THE BETTER TEAMS. KEEP IN MIND, A MAJORITY OF THESE GAMES WERE PLAYED DURING THE SMUSH PARKER-KWAME BROWN-LUKE WALTON ERA...THEN YOU FACTOR IN THAT A LOT OF THESE GAMES WERE ALSO PLAYED BY POST-PRIME KOBE, AND IT MAKES SENSE WHY THE AVERAGES FAVOR LEBRON...  TAKE THAT 6 MINUTE GAME AWAY, WHERE KOBE GOT INJURED IN THE 1ST QUARTER, AND AVERAGES CHANGE EVEN MORE.


TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, KOBE IN 2002 WAS BETTER THAN LEBRON IS NOW.

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KOBE IN 2002 WAS BETTER THAN LEBRON IS NOW.

Laughable.

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Yeah, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow and Big Z were fucking studs.

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Yeah, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow and Big Z were fucking studs.

Don't forget big, bad Donyell Marshall.

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Notable teammates for LeBron

Rookie Season:

Carlos Boozer
Ricky Davis   
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Jeff McInnis
Eric Williams
Darius Miles
Ira Newble

2nd Year:

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Jeff McInnis
Drew Gooden
Ira Newble
Robert Traylor
Eric Snow

3rd Year:

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Ira Newble
Damon Jones
Eric Snow
Donyell Marshall
Flip Murray

4th Year (Finals team):

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Sasha Pavlovic
Damon Jones
Eric Snow
Donyell Marshall

5th Year:

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Larry Hughes
Boobie Gibson
Sasha Pavlovic
Damon Jones
Devin Brown
Andy Varejao

I can go on. But, to say that any of these teams were better than what Kobe had, when LeBron had shit to play with is laughable.

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Those were 60+ win teams with amazing defensive units, sometimes even favorites to win it all... The fact that u even compare it to the smush-luke-kwame laker teams just goes to show where ur basketball knowledge stands.

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Yeah, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow and Big Z were fucking studs.

Big Z > Kwame Huges > Luke Snow > Smush

Are u really tryna argue this? Ur on a roll wit saying gay sex is natural and now this..

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03-04

Shaq
Malone
Payton
Phil Jackson

04-05

Butler
Odom
Mihm
Atkins

05-06

Odom
Parker
Kwame
Mihm
Cook
Phil Jackson

06-07

Parker
Odom
Walton
Bynum
Evans
Phil Jackson

07-08

Gasol (partial)
Bynum
Odom
Farmar
Walton
Turiaf
Fisher
Phil Jackson

Keep in mind that 03-04 & 07-08 were teams that made it to the Finals.

The fact that you leave off names like Butler and Odom on some of these squads just goes to show that you are trying to create sympathy for Kobe.

In the same exact stretch, Kobe played with Shaq, Malone, Payton, Odom and Pau. And was Coached by Phil Jackson and Rudy T.

LeBron played with Big Z, Boozer, Larry Huges, Donyell Marshall and Varejao. And was Coached by Paul Silas and Mike Brown.

Yeah, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow and Big Z were fucking studs.

Big Z > Kwame Huges > Luke Snow > Smush

Are u really tryna argue this? Ur on a roll wit saying gay sex is natural and now this..

Big Z <<<<< Odom
Hughes > Luke
Snow > Smush
Boozer <<<<<<<<<<< Pau

Are YOU really trying to argue this? You're on a roll with your repressed gay feelings and now this...

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Those were 60+ win teams

Because of one man.

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03-04

Shaq
Malone
Payton
Phil Jackson

04-05

Butler
Odom
Mihm
Atkins

05-06

Odom
Parker
Kwame
Mihm
Cook
Phil Jackson

06-07

Parker
Odom
Walton
Bynum
Evans
Phil Jackson

07-08

Gasol (partial)
Bynum
Odom
Farmar
Walton
Turiaf
Fisher
Phil Jackson

Keep in mind that 03-04 & 07-08 were teams that made it to the Finals.

The fact that you leave off names like Butler and Odom on some of these squads just goes to show that you are trying to create sympathy for Kobe.

In the same exact stretch, Kobe played with Shaq, Malone, Payton, Odom and Pau. And was Coached by Phil Jackson and Rudy T.

LeBron played with Big Z, Boozer, Larry Huges, Donyell Marshall and Varejao. And was Coached by Paul Silas and Mike Brown.

Yeah, Larry Hughes, Eric Snow and Big Z were fucking studs.

Big Z > Kwame Huges > Luke Snow > Smush

Are u really tryna argue this? Ur on a roll wit saying gay sex is natural and now this..

Big Z <<<<< Odom
Hughes > Luke
Snow > Smush
Boozer <<<<<<<<<<< Pau

Are YOU really trying to argue this? You're on a roll with your repressed gay feelings and now this...

Ur the one who said men taking dick in the ass is natural, not me..Why are you reaching and bringing pau into this? I wasn't talking about those teams.. I clearly said the smush-Luke-kwame era lakers. Pay attention or dont even bother.

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Ur the one who said men taking dick in the ass is natural, not me..Why are you reaching and bringing pau into this? I wasn't talking about those teams.. I clearly said the smush-Luke-kwame era lakers. Pay attention or dont even bother.

Wow, you are that hurt over being exposed as a Homophoic Closet Homo that you want to bring it up in ANOTHER topic? Damn.

Not reaching to bring in Pau. I used line ups for LeBron from 03-04 to 07-08 to prove a point. You yourself only chose to acknowledge Kobe's squads from 09-11. So, I just evened the playing field. Don't get upset when someone just keeps you honest. And again, why did you leave of Butler from 04-05? And why did you leave off Lamar from all the squads? Pay attention or don't even bother.

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u think gay sex is natural and ur a "lebron>kobe" guy + a drake fan.....i literally hate everything about u.


i didnt bring up caron butler because he wasnt on the smush-kwame-luke teams i was referring to ...i simply brought up those three in comparison to the players u brought up. eric snow and smush parker = point guards...larry hughes and luke walton = small forwards....kwame brown and big z = centers. only advantage kobe had on the smush teams was odom>gooden.. but even then, gooden was a consummate double-double guy and not too bad himself.


now stop copying my posts and rewording them like the little fruit u are and come wit some original shit, dawgy
 

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u think gay sex is natural and ur a "lebron>kobe" guy + a drake fan.....i literally hate everything about u.


i didnt bring up caron butler because he wasnt on the smush-kwame-luke teams i was referring to ...i simply brought up those three in comparison to the players u brought up. eric snow and smush parker = point guards...larry hughes and luke walton = small forwards....kwame brown and big z = centers. only advantage kobe had on the smush teams was odom>gooden.. but even then, gooden was a consummate double-double guy and not too bad himself.


now stop copying my posts and rewording them like the little fruit u are and come wit some original shit, dawgy
 

Wow you are so hurt dude. You've brought up that topic now in 2 separate topics. Are you really hurt that I pointed out to everyone what a closet homo you are? Seems like it. Grab a kleenex and wipe your tears buddy.

Let me understand this better, you are using 05-06 and 06-07 as your only crutches here? 4 games?

Your words:

OUTSIDE OF 2009-2011 (THE YEARS KOBE OUTPLAYED LEBRON), LEBRON ALWAYS HAD THE BETTER TEAMS. KEEP IN MIND, A MAJORITY OF THESE GAMES WERE PLAYED DURING THE SMUSH PARKER-KWAME BROWN-LUKE WALTON ERA...THEN YOU FACTOR IN THAT A LOT OF THESE GAMES WERE ALSO PLAYED BY POST-PRIME KOBE, AND IT MAKES SENSE WHY THE AVERAGES FAVOR LEBRON...

You are trying to say that outside of the 08-09, 09-10 and 10-11 seasons, LeBron always had a better team. You also claim that of the 19 games... one more time, 19 games... played between Kobe and LeBron the "majority" were played during the "Smush Parker-Kwame Brown-Luke Walton" era. Yet, only 4... count them, 4 games were played in that period. They played 3 games before this "era" you like to bring up. They've played 12 Games since that era has ended. So, no, the majority was NOT played during the Smush-Kwame era.

Now, remember, you have yet to mention that he played with Odom. Why? Why is it not the Odom-Smush-Kwame-Luke era?

You brought those names BEFORE I commented. Matter of fact, you... No one else... commented prior to you bringing up those names. And you conveniently forgot to mention the 03-04 team. Caron Butler. Lamar Odom. Pau. You chose to focus on 2 seasons and leave off 1 very important player on those teams.

Larry Hughes was a Shooting Guard, not a Small Forward by the way. Hughes was a better player, individually, but Walton was a much better teammate and added his own value. Their PER's were similar, but flip flopped in 05-06 and 06-07.

Eric Snow was 30+ and was averaging around 40% shooting, 4 or so assists and under 5 points. Smush was scoring 11 points on about 44% shooting and just under 4 assists. Neither guy was John Stockton in the making, but you really would take a 30 something over a mid 20s guy putting up better numbers?

Yes, Kwame was worse than Big Z. But, Kobe had Lamar Odom. The best player in this conversation not named LeBron or Kobe. Drew Gooden was serviceable, nothing more. Lamar was a legit number 2, which LeBron never had.

Now stop making excuses like the little fruit you are and come with some actual facts, dawgy.

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