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WHO IS THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME?

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M Dogg™:
Arguments of greatest of his era, nah. Now greatest of all time, he wasn't in my top 5 yet, so for me the Super Bowl was a mute point. As I've said, I had to judge a book before I reach the end. And both Brady and Manning's careers I think will go down as great, but neither will be the GOAT. Brady was the closest if he could have completed that undefeated season, and Manning would be over Brady had he won those two Super Bowls and got 3 rings. Instead, Brady has to deal with the fact his teams haven't won since Spygate and Manning seems to never be able to finish the deal. Without putting them in my final rating, I have...

1. Joe Montana
2. Otto Graham
3. Johnny Unitas
4. John Elway (That pains me)
5. Bart Starr

It's hard to compare eras. But I took leadership into consideration and Graham, Unitas and Starr just won and they had really good stats. To me, it'd been very hard to Manning or Brady to crack that top 5.

Don Jacob:
it's hard to say honestly


if i say manning, a little bit tugs for me to say Marino, if I say Marino, another part of me tugs to say Montanna, then Favre.... and so on. In football i don't think you can say clear cut because the rules and style of play and PLAYERS have changed so much from decade to decade.

O.G A.Geesta'z:
Troy Aikman

Shallow:

--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 03, 2014, 02:03:22 PM ---Arguments of greatest of his era, nah. Now greatest of all time, he wasn't in my top 5 yet, so for me the Super Bowl was a mute point. As I've said, I had to judge a book before I reach the end. And both Brady and Manning's careers I think will go down as great, but neither will be the GOAT. Brady was the closest if he could have completed that undefeated season, and Manning would be over Brady had he won those two Super Bowls and got 3 rings. Instead, Brady has to deal with the fact his teams haven't won since Spygate and Manning seems to never be able to finish the deal. Without putting them in my final rating, I have...

1. Joe Montana
2. Otto Graham
3. Johnny Unitas
4. John Elway (That pains me)
5. Bart Starr

It's hard to compare eras. But I took leadership into consideration and Graham, Unitas and Starr just won and they had really good stats. To me, it'd been very hard to Manning or Brady to crack that top 5.

--- End quote ---


My issue is still with Montana. Yes he played well in all 4 SBs, but his team never played below him, and he never played above his team. Peyton in all his bluder last night still played slightly better than the rest of his offense and special teams, but I think slightly below his defense. The same can be said for the 09 year.

I simply can't imagine Peyton or Marino losing 3 of the 4 Montana SBs or even coming close. The 2nd one against the Bengals was a coin flip, even for Joe. He threw a horrible pass in the end zone to the Cinci defense late in the game while trailing and the DB dropped it. With Manning and Marino's luck that ball by them would have been intercepted.

And I can't see Joe taking any of Dan's Dolphins teams to the Superbowl. Jow would have won wit hthe 06 Colts, but not 09, and no way does Joe win last night's game. No pocket passer could have beaten the Seahawks last night.

whoisthis:
After yesterday, I really do not think I can continue to consider Peyton the GOAT. Rings aren't everything. Especially in a team sport. But, a performance like that definitely hurts his case.

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