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Halu Sination:
4 years, 48 million. Baltimore loses the 17th pick in the process, as Ubaldo had the qualifying offer attached to him. Orioles also won the Suk-Min Yoon sweepstakes.

There really aren't many high-profile pitchers left on the market now, so any teams that need pitching better make some moves fast. Ervin Santana is still out there...

Remedy360:
Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

Halu Sination:

--- Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM ---Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

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Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

Remedy360:

--- Quote from: Halu Sination on February 18, 2014, 02:59:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM ---Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

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Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

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Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer,  etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.

Halu Sination:

--- Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 03:45:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Halu Sination on February 18, 2014, 02:59:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Remedy360 on February 18, 2014, 02:17:40 AM ---Yeah, I was hoping the M's would make a run at him but it doesn't really look like that happened. I'm hoping we can nab Santana, but I haven't heard a lot about interest in him either. We've got Felix/Iwakuma on top. Taijuan Walker's one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and barring some setback he should be on the back end. After that it's a toss up. There's James Paxton who has some good upside as well but I don't know if they want to start two rookies right away. Then there's a stable of 3 or 4 young guys that'll get the chance to compete but have all struggled in the starting role. Scott Baker and Randy Wolfe are spring training invitees, but those two are projects at best. I was more interested in Jimenez but at this point I'd like to have a guy like Santana hold down the 3 or 4 spot. The thing was that his asking price was ridiculous a few months ago, so hopefully that's down a bit.

--- End quote ---

Something tells me Mariners don't want to give up another draft pick for a pitcher, which is why I don't think M's are interested in Santana. They should've pushed hard for Matt Garza imo. If M's WERE willing to give up another draft pick, Ubaldo would've been your man, as Ubaldo for 4 years/48 mill is an incredibly good bargain compared to what Santana's crazy ass is demanding.

Mariners need offense probably more than they need pitching though. Hope they make some moves and make the best of their Cano contract.

--- End quote ---

Nah, not sure what the exact rule is (lower 50th percentile of the league maybe?) but because of where we finished last season, our draft pick is protected so that's not an issue. More offense would be nice, but the rotation is still a bigger question mark. Last seasons rotation was a mess with guys like Saunders, Harang, Bonderman, Mauer,  etc etc sucking it up at the 3-4-5. The offense was certainly not where it needed to be, but the pitching (bullpen also) was just as big, if not a bigger problem. As far as the offense goes, I feel a lot better about who we have currently than what we have in the rotation. There's certainly question marks about a number of the guys out there, but for the first time in a while there's some options, and positions are more well accounted for than in the past. I'm certain we're still exploring trade possibilities, but I don't know of other offensive options outside of Nelson Cruz, who I'm not wild about for a number of reasons.

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I forgot you guys even had Aaron Harang. Shit, you're right, you guys do need the pitching pretty badly. Randy Wolf is done, Scott Baker I think has a decent chance to make a comeback as a 5 pitcher.

Are you sure about the draft pick protection rule? So M's didn't lose anything from the Robinson Cano deal?

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