MLB Report: Homer Bailey Extends With Cincinnati Reds (7 years, $130 mill WTF)

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7th year is a mutual option for 25 mill, so assuming it ends in an opt-out, it would make this a 6 year, 105 million dollar extension.

Bailey is a good pitcher with a nice two-seamer, and in hindsight I suppose you could expect these starters to get their hefty payday with our current contract inflations... but these massive albatross contracts still manage to get a second look from me every time. Holy shit.

[Remedy360]

Agreed, especially with the guaranteed contracts in baseball and the fact that pitchers can break down at anytime. It's probably a sign of all the new TV money coming in to most teams.

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Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

[Remedy360]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

[Halu Sination]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

Hart can hit for sure but this dude has no knees, and was a horrible fielder even before his injuries. Putting him at anything other than DH sounds disastrous.

I admit I forgot to factor in parks when I mentioned Nelson Cruz though. Safeco is going to be a very rude awakening for a guy who spent his career in Arlington, where even Ian Kinsler hit 30 home runs, twice.

Maybe they can make a trade for an outfielder. Damn I wish Mariners signed their hometown boy Jacoby. Watching him in a Yankee uniform just isn't going to look right.

[Remedy360]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

Hart can hit for sure but this dude has no knees, and was a horrible fielder even before his injuries. Putting him at anything other than DH sounds disastrous.

I admit I forgot to factor in parks when I mentioned Nelson Cruz though. Safeco is going to be a very rude awakening for a guy who spent his career in Arlington, where even Ian Kinsler hit 30 home runs, twice.

Maybe they can make a trade for an outfielder. Damn I wish Mariners signed their hometown boy Jacoby. Watching him in a Yankee uniform just isn't going to look right.

Point taken about Hart. My point was, was that there are some options with some upside for the outfield outside of Hart, whereas the pitching is a bigger unknown. Last year we were bringing in scrubs off the street like Bonderman and Harang , which was why I would've loved to see Jimenez or to still sign Santana. Walker, Paxton, and Ramirez have a much better shot at making the rotation this year, but I still don't feel great giving off the final three spots to young guys. As far as Ellsbury, I was hoping he would sign here, but I can't say I'm disappointed about the way things turned out in terms of big signings. Whose your team BTW? Good to have another baseball head here.

[Halu Sination]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

Hart can hit for sure but this dude has no knees, and was a horrible fielder even before his injuries. Putting him at anything other than DH sounds disastrous.

I admit I forgot to factor in parks when I mentioned Nelson Cruz though. Safeco is going to be a very rude awakening for a guy who spent his career in Arlington, where even Ian Kinsler hit 30 home runs, twice.

Maybe they can make a trade for an outfielder. Damn I wish Mariners signed their hometown boy Jacoby. Watching him in a Yankee uniform just isn't going to look right.

Point taken about Hart. My point was, was that there are some options with some upside for the outfield outside of Hart, whereas the pitching is a bigger unknown. Last year we were bringing in scrubs off the street like Bonderman and Harang , which was why I would've loved to see Jimenez or to still sign Santana. Walker, Paxton, and Ramirez have a much better shot at making the rotation this year, but I still don't feel great giving off the final three spots to young guys. As far as Ellsbury, I was hoping he would sign here, but I can't say I'm disappointed about the way things turned out in terms of big signings. Whose your team BTW? Good to have another baseball head here.

My team is Dodgers aka the team that will never have to worry about pitching for like the next several years lol. If Chad Billingsley is the same Billingsley that he was before his injury, you guys can have Paul Maholm for free lol. Let's not even get started on our bullpen. We signed like ten more closers this year too.

It's actually annoying that the ONLY players we ever seem to go within the past year are pitchers, meanwhile we don't even seem to be set on a second baseman... Cuban defect Alexander Guerrero seems to be leading the running, but it still hasn't even been confirmed that he's going to start at second for us.

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Nigga is the third man in the rotation too lol.

[Halu Sination]

Nigga is the third man in the rotation too lol.

Exactly lol. Although I think he has potential to be their #2 guy.

[MistaNova]

This can only mean one thing. We can expect more trade rumors centered around Brandon Phillips!

Wonder how the Reds plan to keep Chapman and Bruce around.

[Remedy360]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

Hart can hit for sure but this dude has no knees, and was a horrible fielder even before his injuries. Putting him at anything other than DH sounds disastrous.

I admit I forgot to factor in parks when I mentioned Nelson Cruz though. Safeco is going to be a very rude awakening for a guy who spent his career in Arlington, where even Ian Kinsler hit 30 home runs, twice.

Maybe they can make a trade for an outfielder. Damn I wish Mariners signed their hometown boy Jacoby. Watching him in a Yankee uniform just isn't going to look right.

Point taken about Hart. My point was, was that there are some options with some upside for the outfield outside of Hart, whereas the pitching is a bigger unknown. Last year we were bringing in scrubs off the street like Bonderman and Harang , which was why I would've loved to see Jimenez or to still sign Santana. Walker, Paxton, and Ramirez have a much better shot at making the rotation this year, but I still don't feel great giving off the final three spots to young guys. As far as Ellsbury, I was hoping he would sign here, but I can't say I'm disappointed about the way things turned out in terms of big signings. Whose your team BTW? Good to have another baseball head here.

My team is Dodgers aka the team that will never have to worry about pitching for like the next several years lol. If Chad Billingsley is the same Billingsley that he was before his injury, you guys can have Paul Maholm for free lol. Let's not even get started on our bullpen. We signed like ten more closers this year too.

It's actually annoying that the ONLY players we ever seem to go within the past year are pitchers, meanwhile we don't even seem to be set on a second baseman... Cuban defect Alexander Guerrero seems to be leading the running, but it still hasn't even been confirmed that he's going to start at second for us.

What do you make of Matt Kemp? He was about as good as anyone a few years ago, now people seem to think he'll only be a shell of his former self.

[Halu Sination]

This can only mean one thing. We can expect more trade rumors centered around Brandon Phillips!

Wonder how the Reds plan to keep Chapman and Bruce around.

Would you trade ANYONE on Yanks for Phillips?

[Halu Sination]

Yo Rem, I know you're convinced Mariners need pitching more than they need position players but I just realized your OF might consist of Hart and Ackley. Nelson Cruz doesn't sound all that bad suddenly lol.

Well, as far as Ackley goes 2nd overall pick several years back, was trash to begin last year, got sent down, then came back up and ended up finishing around .250, they're obviously hoping for a breakout year or that he can at least be league average. I don't know what to expect from Hart honestly, but he's supposed to be healthy and is a 30+ home run guy when he has been, so having him play RF/DH is fine by me. There's also Logan Morrison who is probably going to get some time out there, but he's also coming off injury so he's another question mark. Then there's Saunders, great tools but hasn't really put it together, another guy that's gonna sink or swim this season. There's also a few intruiging guys in Abe Almonte and Stefan Romero that are going to be fighting for spots. My thing with Cruz is, low obp, strikes out all the time, he got to hit in that Texas launching pad (compare that to Safe-Co), and he's coming off the juice. He's obviously got a more solid track record than our other guys, but what can you expect from him moving forward, you're obviously not getting shit from him in the field either way. It could work, there's just a lot of red flags for me in putting down money on a guy like that.

Hart can hit for sure but this dude has no knees, and was a horrible fielder even before his injuries. Putting him at anything other than DH sounds disastrous.

I admit I forgot to factor in parks when I mentioned Nelson Cruz though. Safeco is going to be a very rude awakening for a guy who spent his career in Arlington, where even Ian Kinsler hit 30 home runs, twice.

Maybe they can make a trade for an outfielder. Damn I wish Mariners signed their hometown boy Jacoby. Watching him in a Yankee uniform just isn't going to look right.

Point taken about Hart. My point was, was that there are some options with some upside for the outfield outside of Hart, whereas the pitching is a bigger unknown. Last year we were bringing in scrubs off the street like Bonderman and Harang , which was why I would've loved to see Jimenez or to still sign Santana. Walker, Paxton, and Ramirez have a much better shot at making the rotation this year, but I still don't feel great giving off the final three spots to young guys. As far as Ellsbury, I was hoping he would sign here, but I can't say I'm disappointed about the way things turned out in terms of big signings. Whose your team BTW? Good to have another baseball head here.

My team is Dodgers aka the team that will never have to worry about pitching for like the next several years lol. If Chad Billingsley is the same Billingsley that he was before his injury, you guys can have Paul Maholm for free lol. Let's not even get started on our bullpen. We signed like ten more closers this year too.

It's actually annoying that the ONLY players we ever seem to go within the past year are pitchers, meanwhile we don't even seem to be set on a second baseman... Cuban defect Alexander Guerrero seems to be leading the running, but it still hasn't even been confirmed that he's going to start at second for us.

What do you make of Matt Kemp? He was about as good as anyone a few years ago, now people seem to think he'll only be a shell of his former self.

In all likelihood, Kemp will be a shell of his former self. It's rare to sit out for as many games as he has the past two seasons and come back the same player. But the way Kemp played the few times he wasn't injured, he honestly looked like he was en route to the Kemp we knew, before of course injuring himself yet again.

None of that matters though, because Dodgers aren't trading Kemp. Not because Kemp is untouchable... NO player in the league short of maybe Mike Trout is untouchable in my opinion. But the trade offers Dodgers are getting for Kemp have all been laughable. People assume that because he spent half the season on the DL twice and because we have four outfielders, they can get Kemp without giving up anything. Even worse is when they expect Dodgers to pay half of Kemp's salary for them. It's like calm down guys, Kemp is still one of our most popular players despite not playing much, and Ned Colletti reassured us that we're never going to drop a player just so we can save money if the player has actual value. We're the fucking Dodgers. We don't fear shitty contracts one bit.

Now if Kemp plays and is horrible but some team STILL wants him, then they can have him. But we'll wait to see if that's the case.

[MistaNova]

Would you trade ANYONE on Yanks for Phillips?

Depends on whether or not I/the Yankees would want the Reds to pay a portion of Phillips' contract (a modified one since Phillips would obviously want a raise) or get Phillips without having to trade any worthwhile players.
If I wanted the Reds to pay a significant portion of Phillips' contract I'd most likely have to give up more than just one season of Brett Gardner. Before the Yankees rejected the trade some other names that were rumored to be involved were David Robertson and Ivan Nova. Those three combined with some notable prospects just might be enough to get the Reds to pay a certain percentage of whatever money is owed to Phillips.
If I wanted to get Phillips without having to give up too much talent I'd just tell the Reds I'd take on the Phillips contract in it's entirety (which should be very easy to do for the Yankees) and I'd probably be able to get away with only giving a couple of borderline top 10 organizational prospects. Like Slade Heathcott, who's got loads of potential but is also blocked thanks to Ellsbitch, Beltranny, Tyler Austin and Mason Williams.

And when I said trade rumors centered around Phillips I wasn't referring to just rumors involving the Yankees. I'm 99.9% sure that we'll be hearing some Phillips-centered rumors in the future as the Reds look to save some money in order to extend Chapman (among others).