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Quote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PMQuote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS>
Quote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PMQuote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PMQuote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes from
Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PMQuote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice.
Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.
this shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.
yeah, lines like "suck my dick on the couch so i can cushion the blow" are so clever
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 04:54:17 PMQuote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PMQuote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS> you'll never get it bruwell, never say never....but as of now, u might don't got it
that line is a lot better than the one i quoted.
Quote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 05:00:18 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 04:54:17 PMQuote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS> you'll never get it bruwell, never say never....but as of now, u might don't got it"youll never get it bru" That's another way of saying "I tap out"U might don't got it? Yeah I don't get it lol. Here's a clever line from Slm Shady LP"Hi Kids do you like Violence?, Wanna see me stick NIne Inch Nails through each of my eye lids? Wanna copy me and do exactly what I did? Let me get up and give this CLEVER shit a standing ovation haha. Honestly I didn't expect this response from you NIKCC.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 04:54:17 PMQuote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS> you'll never get it bruwell, never say never....but as of now, u might don't got it
Quote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS>
Quote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes from
Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice.
"I ain't fuckin with either Jessica neither, Simpson or Alba, my album's just sicker than strep with the fever" 2013vs"get your motherfuckin pants split at the creases, fuckin you intellectually/ giving you mentally sexually transmitted diseases" 1997which is sicker?
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 05:04:11 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 05:00:18 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 04:54:17 PMQuote from: Remedy360 on March 21, 2014, 04:20:16 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 03:50:41 PMQuote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Hack Brodenheimer link=topic=308177.msg2992246#msg2992246 date=1395279532Quote from: Kiss My Black Ass ! on March 19, 2014, 06:05:00 PMthis shit sounds like borderline suicidal music though.and that's what makes it amazing for where Em was at when he was 24 or whateverEm was at his prime from 96 to about 02 or so not that he's still not capable of a dope verse but his work proves that he's been past his peak about a dozen years.How did you come up with this conclusion? You think he's like an athlete where it's easy to tell when a guy is past his best, based on age and performance while competing? You might have liked his earlier shit much more than you do now but to say he was then the best then and not now, really isn't accurate. I don't even know how you can prove that because the dude continues to spit FIRE. I believe he is better now than he was back then. He might have had CLASSIC albums back then but in terms of just MC SKILLS, he's still ridiculous. He's probably better now with much more experience, knowledge and practice. hunger factors into charism, and charisma is where greatness comes fromExactly. Go through your list of favorite rappers, guarantee the majority of them were better towards the beginning of their career than they are now.Em is the exception though. He never lost "hunger". Not sure how much you guys follow him but the dude is as dedicated as the first day. Like I said, people need to make the distinction between CLASSIC albums and where he stands as an MC in terms of SKILL. An opinion is not a FACT. You guy are giving me a bunch of opinions. That's fine but don't pretend these are facts unless you got a way to prove this. Em is still on top of his game. You don't need to here it from me. Just watch what other rappers have to say about him. From Slaughterhouse to whoever. TOP MC's. Not many can fuck with him. All he fucking does is RAP. He's in a fucking cave and writes rhymes 24/7. How the fuck is he past his prime lol? This fool doesn't play basketball. He RAPS> you'll never get it bruwell, never say never....but as of now, u might don't got it"youll never get it bru" That's another way of saying "I tap out"U might don't got it? Yeah I don't get it lol. Here's a clever line from Slm Shady LP"Hi Kids do you like Violence?, Wanna see me stick NIne Inch Nails through each of my eye lids? Wanna copy me and do exactly what I did? Let me get up and give this CLEVER shit a standing ovation haha. Honestly I didn't expect this response from you NIKCC. My bad I was very high.. But it's true though.. The bottom line is that eminen may be technically as good now as he ever was, but if u truly believe that his hunger and passion for music is where it was at in his early years, then u trippin
Cuz that hunger and passion attributes to ur charisma on the mic, and having that hunger and passion is vital to feeling, which is a major part of the package. U can't be in ur prime if ur hunger and passion was once greater.
Quote from: NIKCC on March 21, 2014, 10:32:11 PMCuz that hunger and passion attributes to ur charisma on the mic, and having that hunger and passion is vital to feeling, which is a major part of the package. U can't be in ur prime if ur hunger and passion was once greater. I see where you're coming from and it makes sense but using Em as an example is not great. Why? Because you're talking about a dude who's a perfectionist and still goes hard on his craft. You can have PASSION and CHARISMA but be a shitty rapper. Rhyming is a SKILL. What is SKILL? It's a LEARNED attribute. Which means that you aren't born rhyming the way these guys do. Which means that it took years and years of practice. In this case, a sport can be used as an analogy because it also takes practice to perfect a craft. If you stop shooting freethrows, you won't be able to improve. It's the same with rhymes. So let's say you're a young cat coming up, hungry as fuck and you get your chance to shine, it doesn't mean that LYRICALLY, you're at your APEX. You can still GROW. Depending on how advanced you are. A better example for what you're saying is KURUPT. This is a guy who you can say lost hunger, dedication etc etc. He isn't a professional anymore. He isn't competitive anymore. His RHYMES tell you he fell from where he was. Eminem might not have the same hunger but the dude is still competitive. He's still at the top of his game and that implies that he's in his prime, regardless. The proof is in his RHYMES.