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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2014, 01:48:47 PM »

p >>>>>suge every single way


Not the most important one my dude; quality.
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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2014, 12:43:56 AM »
they were independent at this point....this is actually how they came up, and they taught snoop the same values, which is why snoop was able to be successful wit dogg house records. bay area hustle.

No Limit may have taught a Dogg new tricks, but they were all bad ones.  No Limit taught Snoop how to stretch himself too thin, water down the industry, sell out, and become a business man first and artist second.  Snoop's success at Dogghouse was a result of leaving the South, and getting back in touch with Dre and local homies from the LBC that shared the same musical vibe and vision as Snoop.

...Much love to Dre and Suge Knight for maintaining Snoop and the Dogg Pound's artistic integrity while they were on Death Row.

Suge Knight >>>>>>>> Master P


master p taught snoop how to run a label, duno if u consider those "bad tricks", but it did help snoop out in more ways than one. dogg house woulda never been possible without the business acumen master p passed down to snoop, which P himself soaked from the bay.....also, while we're on it, 2pac soaked most his game from the bay as well, which is a major part of why he was as good as he was.

if master p was running a major label and was advertising beats in a magazine, that would be a different story. however, from an independent standpoint, anything goes when ur tryin to reach the top, and based on master p's rise to mainstream takeover post-this ad, i'd say he was doin it right.

what alot of ppl didnt understand was p had a gang of connections in texas to help his empire grow fast as it did..he had a southwest wholesale account..so cds got pressed up fast and cheap ...n he had pen n pixel account who did graphics n shit cheap...

put those 2 together..n knowledge of how often the consumer gets paid...he put albums out damn near every 2 weeks...

he literally turnt his label into a trap...when he brought out the different color cd cases 

u can say it represented crack vials..or weed baggies...but put in a low key genius way turned the rap game to a dope game..red cds were fiends..p was his connect..blue cds was snoops ..p was his connect..orange p..etc

everything was cheap..n u got more for your bucks vs the competitors ...avg cd back track was was 15-17 song..p had 20+

funny all these dboy rappers today didnt pay homage to the ice cream man...

p >>>>>suge every single way with out bullyin his artist.or the controversy... everything p put out in a 5yr span went gold or platinum, and they were all nobody..n he didnt lose his catalog either..kept all his masters...didnt lose it



i agree 100%
as much as i love west coast rap i know that Master P was better then suge knight,
actually allot of Exec. Rap producers were better then suge,

Infinite if you ever wanna be a real hip hop head instead of a biased hip hop fan and extend and broaden your knowledge on some good southern rap and its history, take lessons from my boy 3rd Coast,
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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2014, 07:27:31 AM »

p >>>>>suge every single way


Not the most important one my dude; quality.

quality = acquired taste...  u may not like no artist ever on no limit..

but it was ppl who did...

thing about p is...he set up his artist on those soulja/posse cuts he had...mystikal come n show his ass..mystikal is demand...p put mystikal out..

mystikal got a posse song...silkk show his ass..silkk album up next ...n so on...p made sure his featured artist eat.. when the tank was still runnin...


suge was kinda dumb...rage should have followed the dogg food...she was shelved for the longest.. was at death row height..a better mc than kim or foxy..or any bitch out for that matter..

everytime rage was feature she was shittin on kurupt, daz, and snoop...yet suge dumb ass didnt see it...rage should have shined...before pac came...



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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2014, 08:20:07 AM »
If you believe Suge was a better business man than Master P, you're either A a fan boy of Suge or B do not know shit about business.

Suge took one of the biggest artists in the West Coast at the time and built the label around him and his beef with another one of the biggest artists in the West Coast at the time. Dre jumped in the studio with D.O.C. (an artist that came along from Ruthless), Warren G (his family), Snoop Dogg (Warren's friend), Daz (Snoop's family), Nate Dogg (Warren/Snoop's friend), RBX, etc. etc. Suge didn't build a conglomerate.

Now, P, he made a name for himself off of his grind. He sold records out the trunk of his car. His biggest collaborator on No Limit from 91-94 was E-A-Ski. And he was with Ski around the time Ski broke into the mainstream. He didn't go out and sign let's say Too $hort to a record deal to create his label. He didn't strong arm others into doing what he wanted. It was pure grind.
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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2014, 09:37:14 AM »
Now, P, he made a name for himself off of his grind. He sold records out the trunk of his car. His biggest collaborator on No Limit from 91-94 was E-A-Ski. And he was with Ski around the time Ski broke into the mainstream. He didn't go out and sign let's say Too $hort to a record deal to create his label. He didn't strong arm others into doing what he wanted. It was pure grind.

spot on, the funny thing is when P started putting albums out and being successful in the Bay with the West Coast Badd Boyz compilation, early TRU projects, etc. he was kinda looked down upon by other established bay/nor cal artists at the time (like E-40, Too $hort, Spice 1, Pac, C-Bo) cause he sounded like a knock off Spice 1 and C-Bo (using their gimmicks and all) and he didn't get many features on his album outside his roster (Dangerous Dame, Lil Ric, King George etc.) and producers (K-Lou, E-A Ski, Al Eaton) only a few cats like GLP, Pizzo (C-Bo did appear on True, though),  but once he became successful and nationwide these same people started acknowledging him and collaborating with him (you can see D-Shot and E-40 in the If I Could Change video and E-40 is featured on Da Last Don, B-Legit on the Mean Green No Limit compilation). Young Dre the Truth speaks on it in an old interview with Pushin the Bay TV.

P's deal was phenomenal as it was a distribution deal with Priority rather than a regular production deal, it allowed him to keep his masters and the bulk of the profits. and it was brokered by Wendy Day. but P didn't treat all his artists right, Soulja Slim,even C-Murder complained at some point.
 

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Re: Funny No Limit ad from the Source in 1996
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2014, 07:22:45 AM »
If you believe Suge was a better business man than Master P, you're either A a fan boy of Suge or B do not know shit about business.

Suge took one of the biggest artists in the West Coast at the time and built the label around him and his beef with another one of the biggest artists in the West Coast at the time. Dre jumped in the studio with D.O.C. (an artist that came along from Ruthless), Warren G (his family), Snoop Dogg (Warren's friend), Daz (Snoop's family), Nate Dogg (Warren/Snoop's friend), RBX, etc. etc. Suge didn't build a conglomerate.

Now, P, he made a name for himself off of his grind. He sold records out the trunk of his car. His biggest collaborator on No Limit from 91-94 was E-A-Ski. And he was with Ski around the time Ski broke into the mainstream. He didn't go out and sign let's say Too $hort to a record deal to create his label. He didn't strong arm others into doing what he wanted. It was pure grind.

u right n wrong but overall +1... the gist of it is...suge n d.o.c had the friendship..since doc had em as a body guard...suge n doc had their own label...dj quik n others were signed...it didnt do anything..

dre was goin thru it with his situation at ruthless.. warren g snoop daz n nate..were tryin 2 get on..dre needed a new situation...doc got dre to fuck with suge...knowin snoop warren was tryin 2 get on...dre got em to come too..

doc doesnt get the credit he deserves for the foundation of death row..

u spot on bout it all tho..

p had the best of both worlds to be tell u the truth..he was in the south...when rap-a-lot was startin out when he was a houston cougar..he saw the grind..they had independent..and the girnd from  ppl in his own city... mc jro'j, ice mike, the def boys dj captain charles n etc..n the stuff he learned in the bay...

they bay n the south always had a connection...p coming up...used that as an advantage...he knew mean green was gettin cats like e40 n spice spins down in texas...p knew the artist dj screw was puttin on tapes..gain legs as a rapper in the bay..

started doin compilations with the artist he built over time...puttin em out in the south..then started puttin his city on...p grind >>>>> suges