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Hack Wilson - real:
1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on December 31, 2014, 07:23:27 PM ---
now you just doin too much lol
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But you know it's true... LOL... that late 00's was hard to narrow it down, all three of those players were always finding ways to lead their teams to the finals.
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on December 31, 2014, 07:31:18 PM ---1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
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First off, Garnett doesn't belong on this list, ESPECIALLY between 2003-2006. He only led his team out the first round once in his career. Even superstars on their own, with no help usually get out the first round. And you can semi-justify Nash, he did win 2 MVP's, but it's common knowledge that those MVP's should have gone to Bean but the NBA was still mad at him for whatever happened in that hotel room.
2007, LeBron enters his prime, but he was NOT the best player in the league. If I recall, Kobe was winning titles, and with a good team but it was a traditionally built team. As in, it's the same kind of team that many superstars have to win titles. You had the star, Kobe, #2 man, Pau, utility man, Odom, big shot guy, Fisher, always hurt guy who can contribute when healthy, Bynum, and defensive specialist, Ariza/Artest. It's not like Kobe had 2 other superstars with him. And even when LeBron had 2 other superstars, they only won 2 out of 4 titles. That's 3 bona fide superstars, losing to traditionally built teams. Anyways, LeBron was in no way better than Kobe from 2007-2010. The only way you can think that is if you are trolling. Awe son of a bitch, I feel for your damn trolling on New Years Eve. I should just wake up my wife, have sex and then deal with this in the morning.
2014. LeBron is struggling because he's off them 'roids. I started listening to Bay Area sports radio this football season to get Raider news and follow the Harbaugh saga. One thing I love about the Bay, they have no problems talking about LeBron and 'roids. It's down right funny. They have been getting on him hard to leaving Miami and Biogenesis and then losing all kinds of weight in Cleveland. Anthony isn't taking the crown, but this might be the year that we see someone new take it. But in 1999 we all thought the next NBA champion would be the one to take the crown, and the Spurs won but then the Lakers just dominated the next 3 years and we all knew that the 1999 title was just a fluke. Once Kobe started to reach his prime, well enough in 2000 and then fully in 2001, that no one can stop the Lakers. So I am not putting too much into who wins this title. I'll hold judgment for a few years.
Hack Wilson - real:
look where KG was in the MVP voting before saying stupid things about KG
1999-00 NBA 0.337 (2)
2000-01 NBA 0.122 (5)
2001-02 NBA 0.013 (12)
2002-03 NBA 0.732 (2)
2003-04 NBA 0.991 (1)
yeah nobody thought he was the best ::)
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on December 31, 2014, 08:18:37 PM ---look where KG was in the MVP voting before saying stupid things about KG
1999-00 NBA 0.337 (2)
2000-01 NBA 0.122 (5)
2001-02 NBA 0.013 (12)
2002-03 NBA 0.732 (2)
2003-04 NBA 0.991 (1)
yeah nobody thought he was the best ::)
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Except no one thought him better than Shaq, Duncan or Kobe. Maybe a couple of people. And let's see results, Nash won MVP trophies over Kobe, and even you have a hard time putting Nash over Kobe. So all we know, KG got Kobe's votes post 2003. And the results are this...
playoffs:
1997, 3 game sweep to Houston
1998, 3-2 lost to Seattle
1999, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2000, 3-1 lost to Portland
2001, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2002, 3 game sweep to Dallas, which wasn't as good as the Dallas today
2003, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2004, 4-1 win over Denver, 4-3 over Sacramento, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2005-2007, didn't see the playoffs again.
KG had one great year, and before that he produced average results. Results don't lie. Most superstars by themselves get to the second round at least a couple of times. KG just couldn't cut the mustard. And you are talking to someone who wanted the Lakers to trade for him, look up my history with KG. I like him. But he just wasn't up to snuff to be up there with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on December 31, 2014, 07:31:18 PM ---1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
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trolol .. especially at Lebron bein the best player in 07
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