The Official Cleveland Cavaliers thread

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The Pacers were a top 5 team in the league prior to this year. The Thunder team had 3 of the top 5 best players in the NBA on the same roster & the Spurs team was better than anyone Kobe's ever had to play in his life.

We've been over this. Kobe beating the Celtics was his greatest challenge & Pau & Artest did more than half the work for him. Prior to that was the Kings & then "cakewalks" against the Eastern opponents in the Finals & in between that was your delusional Phoenix Suns everybody wrote off because they gave up like 110 PPG, Chris Paul's (someone you think is awfully, awfully, awfully overrated) Hornets & T-Mac & Melo playing...well...how T-Mac & Melo always played, not relatively competitive come playoff time.

Dude, the facts remain...if LeBron was in the West, he'd have a better team than he does right now & in this competitive West where if Durant stayed healthy & they made the 8 seed over the Pelicans, literally all 8 teams would have a decent chance to make the Finals. Throw the best player since Jordan on any of those 8 teams & they automatically become the hands down favorite to win the Finals. Then you just switch up the narrative for yourself & whine like the teenage girl you been sounding like, " He's got Lillard & Aldridge...no fair ", " He's got Westbrook & Durant...no fair ", " He's got Harden & Howard...no fair ", " He's got the entire Spurs team...no fair ", " He's got the Clippers...no fair " & on & on & on.

lmao the pacers were elite? same pacers who didnt even win 50 games in the east and STILL went to 7 games wit lebron's heat? way to prove a point, son. and why are u naming the Thunder and Spurs, WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, when I asked you what elite teams LeBron beat to get to the Finals? rofl....you just shitted all over yaself, do u realize that? dude had cakewalks to the finals, 5 years straight....u STILL cant name me an elite team he beat in the playoffs to get to the finals. it's embarrassing how bad u try capin for him, bruh. just stop.


and dont ever say somethin as dumb as "the spurs team is better than anyone kobe had to ever face".....the spurs and duncan are known for bein Kobe's bitch. straight up.


i already posted the graphic and i know u saw it....kobe has gone through countless 50+ win teams in the playoffs. Lebron? just 6. it's sad that u wont accept the truth because of how much he make ur dick grow.


there is no star in the west right now that has a better 2nd and 3rd option than lebron....NONE. we talkin about 2 franchise players as his supporting players, and u sittin here talkin about his team would be even better if he played in the west. lmao. it would NEED TO BE better in order for him to win, but i duno how much better it gets than havin kevin love as your 3rd option.


if lebron went to a team like portland, for example...he wouldnt be playin with lillard AND aldirdge....he'd have to replace one of those 2. does aldridge play with 2 other franchise players? does harden play with 2 other franchise players? does chris paul play with 2 other franchise players? did kobe play with 2 other franchise players? then why the fuck should lebron? u pretty much admittin that he needs an all-star cast to win. and more so than any other number 1 option in the league....bosh isnt whack, love isnt whack....they just look whack playin next to lebron. lebron makes players change their game in order to play with him.....he makes his teammates look like role players when they're superstars. aldirdge would prolly be a 12-7 guy playin next to lebron lmao.

[Chamillitary Click]

1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.

2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.

3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.

4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.

5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.

[Hack Wilson - real]

He aint gunna be shit in the NBA...This kid (Jordan Farmer) who goes to my school, is better than him...He averages the most points in LAUSD...Also Steve Smith, another kid who plays for my school is good as hell too...

NIK knew so much about Farmar that he didn't need to spell his name correctly 

[Sccit]

1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.

2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.

3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.

4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.

5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.

again how is a 49 win pacer team "elite".... u not guna sit here and tell me you seriously believe the Paul George pacers are elite smh.

even if u take the shaq era out, Kobe still has wayyy more wins over 50 win teams than lebron. again, lebron has only beaten 6 50+ win teams in his entire career... it's not that impressive when u look at the facts.

lmao@this Spurs team bein better than a Spurs team when Duncan, ginobli, and Parker were all in their prime...smfh, ull say anythin at this point.


lebron played with love all season... when they lose to the Warriors, u guna say "it's cuz they didn't have love".....so which is it?? lol .. get off his nuts

[Hack Wilson - real]

if kevin love becomes a laker NIK is going to say he's the best big man in the game 

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if kevin love becomes a laker NIK is going to say he's the best big man in the game 

did i say that about pau?

[Hack Wilson - real]

no because it would hurt your kobe narrative

Love is going to LA to be the big star there if he goes, Kobe is an old cripple now

[Sccit]

no because it would hurt your kobe narrative

Love is going to LA to be the big star there if he goes, Kobe is an old cripple now

so either im guna downplay love or im guna talk him up....cant be both my ficca

[M Dogg™]

I honestly hope Love goes to Houston. A whole lot of talent, not one of them knows how to win when needed and no heart between Love and Howard.

[Hack Wilson - real]

NIK doesn't get it


i'm saying, you're going to kiss Love's ass because he's be the only good player there when Kobe is long gone


Okafor is gonna suck

[Hack Wilson - real]

2015 playoff leaders after 3 rounds:


Points
1.   James Harden ▪ HOU   462
2.   Stephen Curry ▪ GSW   438
3.   LeBron James ▪ CLE   386
4.   Blake Griffin ▪ LAC   357
5.   Klay Thompson ▪ GSW   296
6.   Dwight Howard ▪ HOU   278
7.   Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI   275
8.   Jeff Teague ▪ ATL   269
9.   Chris Paul ▪ LAC   265
10.   Derrick Rose ▪ CHI   244


Total Rebounds
1.   Dwight Howard ▪ HOU   238
2.   DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC   187
3.   Blake Griffin ▪ LAC   178
4.   Draymond Green ▪ GSW   162
5.   LeBron James ▪ CLE   146
6.   Paul Millsap ▪ ATL   139
7.   Tristan Thompson ▪ CLE   138
    Al Horford ▪ ATL   138
9.   Joakim Noah ▪ CHI   132
10.   Andrew Bogut ▪ GSW   129



Assists
1.   James Harden ▪ HOU   128
2.   LeBron James ▪ CLE   116
3.   Jeff Teague ▪ ATL   107
4.   Chris Paul ▪ LAC   105
5.   Stephen Curry ▪ GSW   96
6.   Blake Griffin ▪ LAC   86
7.   John Wall ▪ WAS   83
8.   Draymond Green ▪ GSW   79
9.   Derrick Rose ▪ CHI   78
10.   Dennis Schroder ▪ ATL   62


Blocks
1.   Dwight Howard ▪ HOU   39
2.   DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC   33
3.   Andrew Bogut ▪ GSW   29
4.   Timofey Mozgov ▪ CLE   27
5.   Al Horford ▪ ATL   23
6.   Pau Gasol ▪ CHI   21
7.   Marc Gasol ▪ MEM   19
8.   Draymond Green ▪ GSW   18
    Tristan Thompson ▪ CLE   18
   LeBron James ▪ CLE   18



Steals
1.   Trevor Ariza ▪ HOU   30
2.   Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI   29
3.   Stephen Curry ▪ GSW   28
    James Harden ▪ HOU   28
5.   Draymond Green ▪ GSW   25
   LeBron James ▪ CLE   25
    Paul Millsap ▪ ATL   25
8.   Jeff Teague ▪ ATL   24
    Tony Allen ▪ MEM   24
10.   Dwight Howard ▪ HOU   23



 

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NIK doesn't get it


i'm saying, you're going to kiss Love's ass because he's be the only good player there when Kobe is long gone


Okafor is gonna suck

if he's good and helps us win, I'll show him all the love in the world. if he sucks and we don't make playoffs, I'll shit on him .. quite simple, young hack

[Hack Wilson - real]

you'll just have to remember he ain't on Lebron's level 

[Sccit]

U MEAN THE GOAT?

[Chamillitary Click]

1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.

2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.

3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.

4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.

5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.

again how is a 49 win pacer team "elite".... u not guna sit here and tell me you seriously believe the Paul George pacers are elite smh.

even if u take the shaq era out, Kobe still has wayyy more wins over 50 win teams than lebron. again, lebron has only beaten 6 50+ win teams in his entire career... it's not that impressive when u look at the facts.

lmao@this Spurs team bein better than a Spurs team when Duncan, ginobli, and Parker were all in their prime...smfh, ull say anythin at this point.


lebron played with love all season... when they lose to the Warriors, u guna say "it's cuz they didn't have love".....so which is it?? lol .. get off his nuts

2013-2014 the Pacers won 56 games & the year before that 49 win Pacers team was better than the 57 win Nuggets. If you don't understand that, you just don't understand the NBA.

Nigga, it's so simple, yet your feeble basketball mind & desire to make a point against LeBron refuses to process it. Regular season wins don't mean anything. So many teams were better than those 60 win Suns teams with Nash & Amare. LeBron James took off two weeks this season. Last year Wade missed like 30 games with Miami. Teams coast, rest players, teams aren't gunning for 68 wins & tiring out for the playoffs. Pop got fined for straight up resting his starting 5. The sooner you realize you're just cooking with some home made stat you probably came across on a Lakers forum that nobody really takes into account, the sooner you won't be recognized as the most bitter man on the planet for Kobe getting leapfrogged.