Author Topic: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?  (Read 1924 times)

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 05:59:29 AM »
tha fakest & top frogg were basically just failed attempts to cash in and keep the money rollin when pac died n snoop left to no limit 

Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2014, 06:46:25 AM »
tha fakest & top frogg were basically just failed attempts to cash in and keep the money rollin when pac died n snoop left to no limit 

True, but you really have to wonder what was going on inside Suges and the artists minds:

Inside the mind of Suge: Hmm, both of my top artists have left. I know I'll get two other dudes who look and sound like em and make em rap like em and we'll be good. The fans are stupid, most of them will never know the difference like the time those Fresh Prince groupies ran up on me and thought I was Uncle Phil.

Inside the mind of Tha Realest:
Well, I suppose I could junk my whole Tenkamenin angle, get a load of tattoos and alter my flow/lyrics in order to become an ironically titled artist called Tha Realest. Sounds like a plan, multiplatinum life here we come - oh hell naw, they nearly shot my foot off like Spider from Goodfellas. Metaphorically speaking that's Pac ghost shooting at my soul. Now what?

Inside the mind of Top Dogg: <Crickets chirp as wind bales blow past the skulls of dead animals on a hot. dry desert floor>

This kind of niggardly thinking could only have come from the mind of Suge. At least when Puff signed Shyne (who was an artist that was years ahead of his time with a great flow and impeccable beat selection - key word WAS) they pushed him as his own artist who had his own topics, nuances and style.

Death Row on the other hand bust out the closest thing they could get to the time for pretty much the same purposes and two decent artists went and flushed their careers down the toilet because of it.

Tenkamenin could have been a dope artist, his name alone spoke volumes and he could have kept the mild Pac similarities and carved his own lane when the whole rap game was thirsting for that kind of style. Top Dogg I'm not so sure but he did outshine Snoop on that Cindafella tip and could have became a decent artist if someone could have lent him a personality to use from time to time.
 

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2014, 10:40:20 AM »
Agree with that, Tha Realest & Top Dogg were/are actually in no way bad rappers, but suges marketing plan just fucked up their carreers. If he wouldve just let them do their own thang and gave them some dope production from the rows production team, the second generation of tha row could have actually worked. But all they did, was spawning out a poor man's snoop dogg, a poor man's 2pac, a poor man's Eminem (That Miilkbone guy or that twist guy I think who was on the "Fuck Dre" song and totally copied ems style), a poor man's rage (V.K. was her name if I remember correctly) and so on...
But I gotta disagree on that Cinderfella/Snoopafella thing. Top Doggs version wasn't bad by any means, but snoops storytelling, flow & his overall approach on remaking a classic was just better. When it comes to doing remakes of classic songs, no one can touch snoop. (Lodi Dodi, Vapors, G-Bedtime Stories, Snoopafella, Paper'd Up, Pay Ya Dues etc.)
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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2014, 10:43:34 AM »
Agree with that, Tha Realest & Top Dogg were/are actually in no way bad rappers

lol okay

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2014, 10:48:21 AM »
They were just forced by suge to imitate pac & snoop. Their rapskills alone without that mimicking shit were actually good. Suge just fucked them up.
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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2014, 01:16:26 PM »
They were just forced by suge to imitate pac & snoop. Their rapskills alone without that mimicking shit were actually good. Suge just fucked them up.

Agree with that, compared to modern artists you can see how they actually had breath control, could ride a beat and had interesting voices.

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2014, 02:02:26 PM »
putting petey faglo in the same lane as pac, suge can suck a fat 1
 

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2014, 07:21:21 PM »
I love Suge.. and love how he's been the one man who has stayed down for Pac to the fullest all through these years...

...I don't agree with Suge's dispute with Dre though, and never have.  That's one of Suge's big mistakes was how he has dealt with Dre.  But nobody is perfect.
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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 08:34:20 PM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.
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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2014, 09:51:32 PM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.
The big thing is Suge is trying to speak FOR Pac.  Which I don't feel anyone can.  Not his mother, not any of the Outlawz, not none of the artists he ran with.  They can speak on the kind of conversations they had with at the time but at the end of the day, nobody knows what Pac would have felt like had he survived and been around in the new millennium.

Maybe he's just viewing things from a different point but Death Row was changing up Pac's music too.  They were putting their new artists on Pac songs that he never recorded with them.  I don't feel like discrediting the positive side of Pac is the angle to play.  I mean, obviously, he wasn't always into that peace shit but he definitely had a vulnerable side to him and that was evident even during is days on Death Row so to say that that's part of the image that Interscope was pushing simply is not true.
 

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2014, 07:31:56 AM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.

The Black panther ideology has mad flaws in it that tie directly into that type of bs. It's a controlled conspiratorial new world order movement rooted in communism.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2014, 09:24:59 AM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.

The Black panther ideology has mad flaws in it that tie directly into that type of bs. It's a controlled conspiratorial new world order movement rooted in communism.

Huh? So the Black Panthers are NWO Communists now? What the fnord?
 

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Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2014, 11:28:50 AM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.

The Black panther ideology has mad flaws in it that tie directly into that type of bs. It's a controlled conspiratorial new world order movement rooted in communism.

Huh? So the Black Panthers are NWO Communists now? What the fnord?
Yes, a communistic organization that was/is being used to help bring about the new world order. Their view of revolution is based on Communism. Do the research for yourself, it's not exactly hidden.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Re: FULL UNSEEN SUGE KNIGHT INTERVIEW - IS 2PAC ALIVE?
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2014, 11:40:23 AM »
This is a really great interview.

On some topics, Suge is either completely wrong or hypocritical, or just talking out of his ass. Suge does not have much of a mental filter before he speaks. Making people think Tupac is alive is just retarded.

But some of Suge's criticisms of Amaru are on point. Tupac was not an angel and he did not promote peace and love to all mankind. I also hate how Amaru wanted to alter Pac's reputation to make him into a gay socialist tree-hugging rapper. He might have embraced that image in 1991 and on a few occasions thereafter, when he was in the mood. But the vast majority of Tupac's songs are about getting money, fucking bitches, and riding on your mothafuckin enemies.

Suge speaks about the real Tupac in this interview, the homie who loved life, worked hard, and balled out of control in 1996...not the young depressed man who wrote Changes and Ghetto Ghospel.

The Black panther ideology has mad flaws in it that tie directly into that type of bs. It's a controlled conspiratorial new world order movement rooted in communism.

Huh? So the Black Panthers are NWO Communists now? What the fnord?
Yes, a communistic organization that was/is being used to help bring about the new world order. Their view of revolution is based on Communism. Do the research for yourself, it's not exactly hidden.

I've never really looked into them like that, seeing as you have would you like to share some choice facts?