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Quote from: M Dogg™ on November 28, 2014, 05:59:26 AMDidn't have to. You are like Eminem doesn't have classics. First that's false, second a lot of great rappers don't have classics. They all may have a great album, but classics are hard to come by. Still Eminem has at least one classic.How is my opinion subjective but yours objective? So what's his classic to you? And I'm interested what's the rest of your top 5 goats
Didn't have to. You are like Eminem doesn't have classics. First that's false, second a lot of great rappers don't have classics. They all may have a great album, but classics are hard to come by. Still Eminem has at least one classic.
well, it's like saying wilt chamberlain isn't an all-time great in basketball.....you can claim it as an opinion, but it just makes you sound ridiculously dumb.
Your top 5 is interesting to me and I appreciate that. But really? Throwing record sales and mass media reviews at an argument doesn't do anything to prove who is better (that's like saying its fact that Harry Potter is the best film of all time)For me to say Em who had 2 great abums and still a string of hits after that, could be probably in a top 20 rappers is generous (but still possible) to say he's even CLOSE to a top 5 is ridiculous to me. How many pioneers of rap came before Eminem with classics under their belt? How many great MCs with or without classic albums? 100s. So why pick Em. Dre to me isn't a goat MC or a lyricist but The Chronic is a stone cold classic. If you're saying MMLP or SSLP are up there with The Chronic then I'm tapping out cause we ain't gonna see eye to eye on this
As for the pioneers, many of their careers only lasted 5 years tops. Longevity is not something many greats have. And to me, that's important.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 07:17:03 AMAs for the pioneers, many of their careers only lasted 5 years tops. Longevity is not something many greats have. And to me, that's important.I agree that shit is rare. And Nas is one of the survivors. I'm not with you on Em's comeback though. Eminem Show was a slight drop off from the first two, but since his albums have been decent at best IMOPeace brother!
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on November 29, 2014, 09:36:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 07:17:03 AMAs for the pioneers, many of their careers only lasted 5 years tops. Longevity is not something many greats have. And to me, that's important.I agree that shit is rare. And Nas is one of the survivors. I'm not with you on Em's comeback though. Eminem Show was a slight drop off from the first two, but since his albums have been decent at best IMOPeace brother!Even MMLP2 which is universally seen as a great album. I haven't heard it yet, but it got better reviews than Recovery, and I loved Recovery. I just haven't had time to listen to MMLP2 whole album, but I did enjoy all the singles, but I didn't factor that album into my Eminem ratings.Also, not one artist has a consistent catalog. They all have peaks and valleys, even Nas himself. And Rakim.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 10:49:10 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on November 29, 2014, 09:36:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 07:17:03 AMAs for the pioneers, many of their careers only lasted 5 years tops. Longevity is not something many greats have. And to me, that's important.I agree that shit is rare. And Nas is one of the survivors. I'm not with you on Em's comeback though. Eminem Show was a slight drop off from the first two, but since his albums have been decent at best IMOPeace brother!Even MMLP2 which is universally seen as a great album. I haven't heard it yet, but it got better reviews than Recovery, and I loved Recovery. I just haven't had time to listen to MMLP2 whole album, but I did enjoy all the singles, but I didn't factor that album into my Eminem ratings.Also, not one artist has a consistent catalog. They all have peaks and valleys, even Nas himself. And Rakim. Great albums don't = classics. My original point stands. Rakims best solo > Em'sAnd MMLP2 is decent, but it went in the trash after one spin
Quote from: Do Buy Albums on November 29, 2014, 11:36:29 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 10:49:10 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on November 29, 2014, 09:36:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on November 29, 2014, 07:17:03 AMAs for the pioneers, many of their careers only lasted 5 years tops. Longevity is not something many greats have. And to me, that's important.I agree that shit is rare. And Nas is one of the survivors. I'm not with you on Em's comeback though. Eminem Show was a slight drop off from the first two, but since his albums have been decent at best IMOPeace brother!Even MMLP2 which is universally seen as a great album. I haven't heard it yet, but it got better reviews than Recovery, and I loved Recovery. I just haven't had time to listen to MMLP2 whole album, but I did enjoy all the singles, but I didn't factor that album into my Eminem ratings.Also, not one artist has a consistent catalog. They all have peaks and valleys, even Nas himself. And Rakim. Great albums don't = classics. My original point stands. Rakims best solo > Em'sAnd MMLP2 is decent, but it went in the trash after one spin In my ratings, Rakim>Eminem. But compared to other rappers, Eminem has few peers.