It's May 14, 2024, 05:28:23 AM
they are literally retarded for not makin this shit happen by now
There was an article back in November or so where some investors in the Middle East were offering Floyd a $120 million guarantee, but it's apparently been taken off the table since part of their offer was that they needed a response by the first week of January, which is now, but Floyd never said anything. Not that their location is an ideal fight location, but when someone is offering you nine figures, at least entertain them.That's one thing that's fucked up... Floyd was offering Manny a sucker's deal a while back with that $40 million purse, but his argument was that $40 million is more than Manny had ever made, but someone offers him more than what he's made in his last three fights combined, but he doesn't accept? It's just a little hypocritical.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 07, 2015, 05:45:44 PMThere was an article back in November or so where some investors in the Middle East were offering Floyd a $120 million guarantee, but it's apparently been taken off the table since part of their offer was that they needed a response by the first week of January, which is now, but Floyd never said anything. Not that their location is an ideal fight location, but when someone is offering you nine figures, at least entertain them.That's one thing that's fucked up... Floyd was offering Manny a sucker's deal a while back with that $40 million purse, but his argument was that $40 million is more than Manny had ever made, but someone offers him more than what he's made in his last three fights combined, but he doesn't accept? It's just a little hypocritical.so who U think the pussy is?
I disagree with the Bob Arum thing. Not to say that he’s free of any blame whatsoever, but I don’t think he’s the one standing in the way of the mega-fight, at least not for those reasons. Manny lost twice in 2012, as you all know, and Arum currently promotes both of those fighters (Bradley and Marquez), but it’s not as if he benefited so much from them being the guy(s) who beat Manny. Manny is his biggest star by a wide margin, and it’s not as if the next guys in line are just a few fights away from achieving his status… in theory, Arum has more to lose from Manny losing than Manny does, seeing how Manny bounced back and didn’t take very long to getting the guaranteed purses he was getting prior to the losses. In contrast, Arum has his work cut out for him in trying to revive the big PPV revenues, but that seems to be a boxing thing in general. After the two Manny losses, it was business as usual, but there wasn’t much that Arum really “gained” from them, particularly from the guys who beat him. It’s not like either Bradley or Marquez became the next superstars either. Bradley had that long layoff but then put up good fights against Provodnikov (though it’s not as if boxing fans were eager to see it just because Bradley had beat Manny, since everyone was pissed with that split decision anyway, though he earned his respect back against Provodnikov since it was a brawl) and then against Marquez (though for it being two boxing stars who had both added wins over Manny to their resume, the fight wasn’t a smash hit either in terms of the numbers). The Manny rematch was expected. Aside from fighting Bradley, Marquez fought Alvarado, but that was a fight that didn’t need to happen, especially since Marquez already had an offer for another Manny fight. All of those fights that were listed above would still have been very likely to have occurred anyway even if Manny hadn’t lost to them, so it’s not like Arum was plotting to market them as conquerers of Manny, primed for a superfight. If he were so greedy, he’d have found a way to force Marquez to take on the fifth fight, since that would generate the most money for him out of any potential fight between fighters in his stable. Basically, I don’t think Floyd not being signed currently to Top Rank is an indicator that Arum doesn’t want the fight, even though it is definitely a hurdle in any situation involving fighters from different promotional companies. It’s not like it was easy back in the day for the dream match between wrestler X from WWF to go against wrestler Y from WCW, unless one wrestler switched companies or if one company bought the other. I don’t get why boxing promoters catch so much heat, when they actually have done a lot of co-promotion throughout the past several years… Arum worked with Golden Boy (prior to Floyd coming out of retirement and using Golden Boy, which seems to have occurred ironically at the same time as when the rift was created between the companies) and has patched things up with them while also working with Lou DiBella for the Cotto-Martinez fight, one that MANY people had been wanting to see for a while.
That doesn’t apply here. If it were a fight against an absolute B-side fighter promoted by a different company, like Danny Garcia or Amir Khan, then that argument would be stronger, since the B-side fighter emerging victorious would open more doors for them and bring them to the next level. In this case, the potential fight is against Floyd, who is most certainly the bigger draw between the two of them and the #1 guy in boxing. If they fought and Floyd won, it’s not as if Floyd reaps any new benefits that weren’t there before… he’d still be the biggest name in boxing, he’d still be the highest paid in boxing, he’d still be undefeated in boxing, and there pretty much wouldn’t be any other fights that he could move on to that would one-up the mega-fight. Not much would change, and there isn’t a step beyond that, other than a rematch. I wouldn’t say Floyd is “indifferent.” Warren Buffet wouldn’t be indifferent about $100 million, and he’s got damn near $100 billion. Floyd keeps boxing and picking up record purses and posting Instagram pictures of cars and jets, so I would lean more toward him in it for the money than for the love of the sport. A guy who calls himself “Money” can’t seriously be indifferent about a fight that would more than double his highest guarantee so far and likely net him even more, after the PPV revenue is tallied, since it’s not like he’s getting a short-sighted deal with only up-front money.