QD3 Songs Cut from the Makaveli Album

[MOBNigga06]

Just bumped the OG version of the Makaveli album and really starting to appreciate its superiority over the released version. The track selection makes it much more coherent, it's the perfect reflection of Pac's state of mind when he was at war.

It occurred to me this time that the main difference between the OG Makaveli and the released Makaveli is that the OG version is the product of essentially three producers, not two: Hurt Em Badd, Darryl Harper, and QD3.

On the OG, QD3 produced roughly 1/3 of the tracks: Friendz, Lost Souls, Niggaz Nature, and To Live N Die In LA.

It makes you wonder if the person who posthumously selected the songs to be released for the Makaveli album had some kind of grudge against QD3 (yet recognized that the single 2 Live N Die In LA could not be cut). Anyone know who was responsible for altering the track selection from what Pac wanted to what was released?

 

[dnjp4life]

That's an interesting question.  I always thought that 2Pac was solely responsible for the tracklisting on the album, and that he chose it that way before he was killed.  When was the album meant to drop anyway? Presumably it was brought forward following 2Pac's death to capitalise off the attention?

[adi760]

Wasn't it problem with mastering, they just hadn't time?

[Black Excellence]

it was said that the beats qd3 gave pac was originally meant for snoop. tbh qd3 shoulda produced the whole makaveli album.

[MOBNigga06]

it was said that the beats qd3 gave pac was originally meant for snoop. tbh qd3 shoulda produced the whole makaveli album.

I think Pac's original vision was best. Three dope producers with three different sounds: QD3, Darryl Harper, Hurt Em Badd.

The only outlier on the OG Makaveli album is When Thugz Cry, produced by Johnny J. Makes you wonder if that track was really on the OG Makaveli, or if someone added it there along with the "hidden track" of Pac screaming the Outlawz names and shit.

[Hack Wilson - real]

it was said that the beats qd3 gave pac was originally meant for snoop. tbh qd3 shoulda produced the whole makaveli album.

you moron, Hail Mary would never have been released then 

[dnjp4life]

I recall reading a long time ago that the beat for 'Letter To The President' was given to Snoop Dogg first but he passed up on it.  I can't imagine him on that beat at all.

[Black Excellence]

it was said that the beats qd3 gave pac was originally meant for snoop. tbh qd3 shoulda produced the whole makaveli album.

you moron, Hail Mary would never have been released then 

so the fuck what u fucktard. how do you know that a better hail mary wouldn't have been made bein' produced by qdIII ? btw lost souls > hail mary.

[Efrain]

There seem to be different perceptions on this from people around that time. Hurt-em-bad said QDIII basically did the whole album before him and Darryl got involved, then they ended up handling the bulk of the production as Pac started to like more and more of their stuff. But as QDIII tells it, Pac only wanted 2-3 of his Beats for Makaveli and the rest he wanted to use later on. He mentioned "Letter to the President" and "You Don't Have to Worry" as two that were done during Makaveli but weren't actually intended for the album.

[Hack Wilson - real]

it was said that the beats qd3 gave pac was originally meant for snoop. tbh qd3 shoulda produced the whole makaveli album.

you moron, Hail Mary would never have been released then 

so the fuck what u fucktard. how do you know that a better hail mary wouldn't have been made bein' produced by qdIII ? btw lost souls > hail mary.

[Sccit]

the album is perfect as is

[Hack Wilson - real]

the album is perfect as is

lol @ having dumbasses on here actually wishing hail mary, bomb first and well over half the album didn't make the cut 


album is already the undisputed best album ever

[MOBNigga06]

the album is perfect as is

The album is pretty damn good, don't get me wrong. The only really weak song on the released version is Toss It Up. The album would be improved if that track were replaced with almost any of others (Friendz, Niggaz Nature, Watch Ya Mouth, etc.)

[MOBNigga06]

There seem to be different perceptions on this from people around that time. Hurt-em-bad said QDIII basically did the whole album before him and Darryl got involved, then they ended up handling the bulk of the production as Pac started to like more and more of their stuff. But as QDIII tells it, Pac only wanted 2-3 of his Beats for Makaveli and the rest he wanted to use later on. He mentioned "Letter to the President" and "You Don't Have to Worry" as two that were done during Makaveli but weren't actually intended for the album.

That's pretty interesting to hear. The way I'd make sense of their conflicting understandings is by guessing that Pac probably envisioned a few different Makaveli albums at the time. Clearly a bunch of QD3 tracks were intended for Makaveli projects, Kiluminatti being the most obvious one.

[TraceOneInfinite]

The Makaveli album is perfect the way it is.  I strongly believe Suge did the right thing in regards to this album, and he was even in an interview with MTV right after Pac died (a classic interview, btw) and he was saying that Pac did make up with Nas at the Awards but that since Pac had died he had to leave the album as it was, because he didn't have the right to go in and change it without Pac being there.  So I firmly believe the form that the album was released in is the way Pac meant for it to be.