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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2015, 12:52:09 AM »
the last true great Death Row album  :(
Right.
Exactly... Daz was still on fire at the time and he even had a leftover stash with tracks like "O.G." and "Initiated" that had been around for a while, but sounded fresh and fit his album perfectly.  

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2015, 01:28:41 AM »
Snoop did him a favour when they took O.G. off Doggfather
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2015, 03:13:34 AM »
the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.

"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with.  They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album.  But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.

...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum.  While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row.  By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row.  They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).

This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.  

I thought "In California" was a perfect lead single.  A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal.  It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts.  I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song.  Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.

The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made.  Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers.  And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015.  I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler.  I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.

Pretty much sums up how i feel about this album.
The production was tight (still had that organic sound), lyrics were cool (didn't become cliched)  and before Daz started shouting his raps and doing stupid corny adlibs.

The only criticisms are the intro being too long, and the album being too long in general. Either take off 3/4 tracks or make some of the tracks much shorter.
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2015, 05:19:46 AM »
the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.

"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with.  They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album.  But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.

...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum.  While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row.  By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row.  They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).

This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.  

I thought "In California" was a perfect lead single.  A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal.  It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts.  I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song.  Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.

The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made.  Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers.  And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015.  I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler.  I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.

Pretty much sums up how i feel about this album.
The production was tight (still had that organic sound), lyrics were cool (didn't become cliched)  and before Daz started shouting his raps and doing stupid corny adlibs.

The only criticisms are the intro being too long, and the album being too long in general. Either take off 3/4 tracks or make some of the tracks much shorter.

Don't have a problem with the intro, the whole idea with the gang meeting fits the album pretty well  8)
But as far as beeing too long, there would only be the 3 tracks that Infinite mentioned (Baby Mama Drama, Only For U, Thank God For My Life) that sometimes can be skipped (although I like Baby Mama Drama, Daz & Style come smooth on that one  8), although they are still good songs and not really filler...

PS:
The O.G. solo version with nate & snoop is better to me, just like it more with a snoop dogg in his prime doing all the verses (dont wanna say daz part is bad, because its definetely not  :))
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2015, 10:26:57 AM »

The O.G. solo version with nate & snoop is better to me, just like it more with a snoop dogg in his prime doing all the verses (dont wanna say daz part is bad, because its definetely not  :))

Yeah, it wasn't until WideAwake came out with LostSessions that I actually heard the old version of "O.G." that features two full Snoop verses along with the Snoop interlude and Nate.  It is Snoop in his prime, maybe even done around the time of the Doggystyle sessions, because it sounds like that Snoop that was still fresh off the streets.  Some of Snoop's best storytelling is on that song and it was a shame that his other verse got cut and never came out in a timely manner.  He really needed that song to tighten up the Doggfather album and I don't know how the mistake was made of leaving the track off.

...That said, the RRGB version with Daz was still tight as fucc, and Daz also came hard on the track.
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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 01:54:39 PM »
Was "Ultimate Come Up" on there?  I can't remember but was feeling that joint.  Of course it sound better with some subs.
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2015, 04:42:04 AM »
Yeah, Ultimate Come Up is on there.
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2015, 07:20:50 AM »



DAZ DILLINGER - RETALIATION, REVENGE & GET BACK
(Original Master / December 1997)


01. Intro / Gang Meeting
02. Gang Bangin Ass Criminals
03. Its Going Down
04. Playa Partners
05. It Might Sound Crazy
06. Because Of You Girl
07. In California
08. Initiated
09. Oh No
10. Retaliation Revenge & Get Back
11. OG
12. Baby Mama Drama
13. Only For U
14. Ridin High
15. The Ultimate Come Up
16. Thanks God For My Life
17. Outro / Why Do We Bang
18. Pimp City (Cassette Bonus)

"Our Daily Bread" - Dogg Food leftover previously recorded in 1995
"Because Of You Girl" - original version featuring Outlawz
"Initiated" - recorded during the summer 1996, previously planned for Gridlock'd OST
"Pimp City" - later released in Soopafly Dat Whoopty Woop
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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2015, 10:47:00 AM »
anyone know why that girls face was blurred in the 'in cali vid'?
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2015, 11:12:25 AM »



DAZ DILLINGER - RETALIATION, REVENGE & GET BACK
(Original Master / December 1997)


01. Intro / Gang Meeting
02. Gang Bangin Ass Criminals
03. Its Going Down
04. Playa Partners
05. It Might Sound Crazy
06. Because Of You Girl
07. In California
08. Initiated
09. Oh No
10. Retaliation Revenge & Get Back
11. OG
12. Baby Mama Drama
13. Only For U
14. Ridin High
15. The Ultimate Come Up
16. Thanks God For My Life
17. Outro / Why Do We Bang
18. Pimp City (Cassette Bonus)

"Our Daily Bread" - Dogg Food leftover previously recorded in 1995
"Because Of You Girl" - original version featuring Outlawz
"Initiated" - recorded during the summer 1996, previously planned for Gridlock'd OST
"Pimp City" - later released in Soopafly Dat Whoopty Woop

Where you always get these infos from ? Like The Doggfather Timeline for example ?
Is there also one for this album ?
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2015, 11:21:33 AM »
I got the album the day it came out and "Because of You" is not on my copy.  Also, "Gang Bang..." comes in after the long as intro for track 1, then 2. "It's Goin Down", then 3. "Playa Patnas"... and so on.  Btw, not a fan of B-Legit but that "Playa Patna" joint is smooth as fucc in spite of B-Legit and thanks to Daz

...And like what was said above, Kurupt was all over the album, and it's likely he recorded those verses earlier, because he is his usual Death Row self and not just spittin random nonsensical—tyranical bacteria crack your back tortilla tyrantialla—like he did on Kuruption and everything else after leaving Death Row.

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2015, 04:25:27 PM »
Yep, I bought it release day, no "Because of You Girl" on mine, either. I didn't know there was a cassette only bonus, either. Damn you Death Row, always screwing the CD buyers!
 

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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2015, 04:30:07 PM »
Pimp City was the bonus on my cassette
 

JeremyM

Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2015, 04:40:49 PM »
Pimp City was the bonus on my cassette

I never bought the tape so didn't know there was one. I would've for the bonus cut if I had.
 

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Re: Daz Dillinger - Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back... Revisited
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2015, 05:04:07 PM »
I got the album the day it came out and "Because of You" is not on my copy.  Also, "Gang Bang..." comes in after the long as intro for track 1, then 2. "It's Goin Down", then 3. "Playa Patnas"... and so on.  Btw, not a fan of B-Legit but that "Playa Patna" joint is smooth as fucc in spite of B-Legit and thanks to Daz

...And like what was said above, Kurupt was all over the album, and it's likely he recorded those verses earlier, because he is his usual Death Row self and not just spittin random nonsensical—tyranical bacteria crack your back tortilla tyrantialla—like he did on Kuruption and everything else after leaving Death Row.



Yeah Kurupt was still in his prime, just look at the Inititated Part  8)