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KEVIN DURANT'S MT. RUSHMORE
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 21, 2015, 11:16:02 PM ---This nigga just referenced Aaron Brooks scoring 20 ppg on a team where T-Mac played less than 10 games to defend the Western conference strength for Kobe. Then goes on to change the subject as always about the East...when we're not talking about the East...we're talking how the Lakers had no real obstacles in the West. Mind-boggling stupidity.
I wish this section had more legitimacy. All we got is a guy who knows one sport, but his biased judgment only makes him valid to talk about like the Timberwolves or the Bucks. Until Jabari or Wiggins start scoring 25+ and win games. Then some dumbass on this forum will make the mistake of mentioning Kobe in the same sentence and there goes those teams.
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i dont get it....i just detailed how they were all 50+ win teams who woulda outed pretty much any team lebron has ever played on, yet you're over here acting like i didnt break down the strengths of each team individually, focusing on a straw-man argument ("u said aaron brooks!!!") out of desperation...i even spoke on how they had better supporting casts than kobe, yet all you can say is "you're biased! nigga said aaron brooks!! stuuuuupid!!!!" <your reply in a nutshell
admit it, this is all founded on your love for lebron...any time some1 is pinned up against him, u get really detailed and start typing paragraphs about why theyre wrong. ONLY if lebron is involved....you're not even biased towards a team you root for or a player that plays for your team- just one man. it's the gayest thing i've ever seen in my life.
once again, you're projecting...u need to cut that out and maybe take some mdma so that u can find some inner peace with yourself.
M Dogg™:
Okay, let's see here, 2008.
After revisiting the 2008 playoffs. Denver was the 8th seed. Denver was also 50-32!!! The 8th seed won 50 games!!! The east only had 3 teams win 50 games. Golden State missed the playoffs and they won 48 games.
Denver, the 8th seed also had Iverson that year. And though Iverson was older, he still scored 31 points in the playoffs, and Camby was grabbing around 15-17 rebounds a game and the Nuggets were still a good team that would have made it far in the east.
Utah was a good team, would have beat the Cavs in a playoff series that year, and the Spurs were healthy by playoffs. Everyone knows the Spurs always aim to be healthy by playoffs.
Stop trying to make it out like the Lakers were beating a bunch of nobodies. They went against the grind. And they did so without Bynum the whole run. Once Bynum came back, even limping, the Lakers were able to pull a back to back.
Chamillitary Click:
Nigga, you're bugging. It's very simple to understand. Just follow.
LA was the UK of the West for those three years. Yeah, the SEC this year had Arkansas, quality squad. LSU put together a nice team this year. So did Utah in 2008 & sure, even the Nuggets with two of the most ball dominate players on the same floor.
It's not was the East better than the West. It's you said "Cleveland didn't go through anything in 2007" & I'm saying "If Cleveland didn't go through anything in 2007 with Daniel Gibson & Big Z as co-stars & you're diminishing that, then the same can be said that the Lakers run for the three years after wasn't all that impressive either since they had by far the best team in the West".
YES the Lakers did play better teams the following three years, but compared to the talent & coaching the Lakers had to the rest of the West it was like Kentucky playing #17 ranked Arkansas. You can have NIK type up the rosters, it doesn't change the fact that the Lakers & Celtics were like 100/100 squads & the next best teams were like 89/100 & 90/100. To put it in perspective, Cleveland was like an 80/100 team in 2007, but they had to play teams that were closer to 80/100 & even a Pistons team they beat that was better than them.
Here's a final example because it's incredible how it's not understood...It would be like having a two different free throw contests with 5 people in each. The first one has a guy who shoots 95% from the line & four guys that shooter 80% from the line. The second contest, has all guys that shoot between 60% & 65% from the line. Sure, the first contest has better shooters, but the champion was already decided before they started shooting. The second contest champion had to go through teams similar to their skill & still won.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2015, 10:51:24 AM ---Nigga, you're bugging. It's very simple to understand. Just follow.
LA was the UK of the West for those three years. Yeah, the SEC this year had Arkansas, quality squad. LSU put together a nice team this year. So did Utah in 2008 & sure, even the Nuggets with two of the most ball dominate players on the same floor.
It's not was the East better than the West. It's you said "Cleveland didn't go through anything in 2007" & I'm saying "If Cleveland didn't go through anything in 2007 with Daniel Gibson & Big Z as co-stars & you're diminishing that, then the same can be said that the Lakers run for the three years after wasn't all that impressive either since they had by far the best team in the West".
YES the Lakers did play better teams the following three years, but compared to the talent & coaching the Lakers had to the rest of the West it was like Kentucky playing #17 ranked Arkansas. You can have NIK type up the rosters, it doesn't change the fact that the Lakers & Celtics were like 100/100 squads & the next best teams were like 89/100 & 90/100. To put it in perspective, Cleveland was like an 80/100 team in 2007, but they had to play teams that were closer to 80/100 & even a Pistons team they beat that was better than them.
Here's a final example because it's incredible how it's not understood...It would be like having a two different free throw contests with 5 people in each. The first one has a guy who shoots 95% from the line & four guys that shooter 80% from the line. The second contest, has all guys that shoot between 60% & 65% from the line. Sure, the first contest has better shooters, but the champion was already decided before they started shooting. The second contest champion had to go through teams similar to their skill & still won.
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I think you mistake how I debate these things to how Sccit does. I don't give a FUCK about making Kobe look good. I don't really care who the Lakers had on the roster than wins, as long as they win. Bottom line. I don't give a fuck who LeBron has or doesn't have. He didn't have shit, but he was playing against shit. And if you are the leader of shit, against shit, you should win if you are a superstar. I give LeBron a pass in this way, he was 22. At 22, it's hard to beat a team like the Pistons, even though Detroit wasn't as good. They still had 3 core players from the 2004 team and they were still the best in the east. So for that, I give LeBron props. But pass that, he always played in a weak eastern conference. Even with stacked teams, he barely beat San Antonio and lost to them the next year. The Lakers went through great teams in the playoffs. Kobe led the way. He had help, but you need help to beat those San Antonio teams. When LeBron got help, he was able to move on. But with the whole thing on his shoulder, he barely was able to break through.
So here is my ranking of players since 2000:
1. Kobe
2. Duncan
3. LeBron
4. Wade
5. Shaq
And I'm being generous to LeBron putting him over Wade and Shaq. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in terms of his playoff failures. But for sure, he's not better than Kobe or Duncan. That has been establish. And unless he has a huge run of MJ levels in his 30's, and his game isn't exactly an old man's game, I don't see him moving.
Chamillitary Click:
To be fair, you hate LeBron. Not on a NIK level, but definitely some bias. You tend to get caught up in your firm belief that he has been on PEDs his entire career.
I understand though. I think our government was responsible for 9/11 so it's hard to ever give them the benefit of the doubt for me lol.
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