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Even the track they did was already done by Dre and Sam Sneed. Seems like they did a lot of studio time and publicity for just one song?
To be honest I haven't heard the DOCs version in a long ass time, did it stick with the themes? or did it end up just doing gangster rap again?
Quote from: Blasphemy on January 18, 2016, 09:29:29 AMTo be honest I haven't heard the DOCs version in a long ass time, did it stick with the themes? or did it end up just doing gangster rap again?To my knowledge the only thing the DOC stole was just the album title.
I swear there are at least 4 confirmed songs for 'Helter Skelter';1. Natural Born Killers2. Gimme 50 Feet3. Can't C Me (Original)4. Cant remember the name of the 4th song lol
Quote from: Montana Mob on January 18, 2016, 09:59:59 AMI swear there are at least 4 confirmed songs for 'Helter Skelter';1. Natural Born Killers2. Gimme 50 Feet3. Can't C Me (Original)4. Cant remember the name of the 4th song lol Hhmmmmm if you see the two songs we did hear (NBK/Can't C Me) it's very clear to hear the creative differences on this album. NBK fits the original would be theme of the album, while Can't C Me was just another typical G-Funk record. It seems obvious Dr. Dre wanted to go into another direction besides gangsta rap at the time, Maybe it was all the gangbanging on death row at the time, but in the NBK video they had the visual representation of Gangsta rap dying with the lowrider going into the water. Dr. Dre tried going in a different direction with "Been there Done That" and the reason he left Death Row is because he was tired of the gangsterism that was infecting the entire place, I mean it's clear as day he runs Aftermath in a much more professional way less aggressive manner. I mean you can tell from the early aftermath releases he didn't want to put down the same G-rap he was doing before. I mean shit it was a total of 9 years with the same lyrical concept obviously he got tired of it. Then he finds Eminem who's go this more comedic style that contains over the top violence, and dealing with weird ass issues and was lyrically amazing. It was perfect for his creative outlet. I believe the Can't C Me track was Ice Cubes influence on the record, Ice Cube went straight back to gangster rap around that time, he had stopped all the political stuff was doing, from the speeches on gang violence and the hypocrisy of the government, and went back to his original style. People always seem to forget it was Ice Cubes lyrical style that was the origins of gangsta rap street content. Everyone mentions boyz n the hood and Eazy E but remember Ice Cube wrote those words not Eazy. So when he went back to Gangster rap it was him going back to his original style. It was clear as day he wanted to keep doing that style of music, at the time it's clear he reveled in the style, Look at all the records he was attached too during that period, he had Lethal Injection, K-Dees record, WC, WSC. It's obvious he didn't want to really stop making gangsta rap, so maybe he didn't actually write that many mind altering songs for the album. Maybe his contributions was just the typical lyrics Dr. Dre was just tired of. Maybe the DOC had written the lyrical themes Dr. Dre wanted and when he left Dre figure cube wasn't going to change his stance anytime soon.
And wasn't California Love at one point allegedly for the Helter Skelter project?
I'm confused as hell here. I distinctly remember The D.O.C. saying that Dre wanted him to read all sorts of crazy books and write him a dark apocalyptic album which was to be called Helter Skelter. Am I missing something here?