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Quote from: Sccit on August 14, 2016, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: J-FUNKTION on August 14, 2016, 08:17:49 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like itAin't that the truth, you know the first time you heard the keys for Still DRE it was dope and it is still is, no matter how many spins you give it it can just pop up on random one day and have you vibing like the first time you played it, because its a hit. Hell you can pick out pretty much any Dre track pre Compton (well at leasts over 60% of his catalog to be accurate) and it will do the same thing. Compton on the other hand was quickly rushed to allow Dre to wash his hands of Detox and its hype that he could never deliver on - not by your expectations but his - by pretending it wasn't a Dre album per se and just created for the movie yada yada yada. It was a weak concept with poor execution, some interesting beats here and there thematically speaking, generally piss poor lyrics and the usual outstanding mastering. As I said back when it was released I'd love to hear the instrumental version and I'll guarantee you that Dre has tracks that he'd recorded for Detox that excrete all over this release even though they'll either be barebones, hardly finished or only have 492 different vocal takes - none of which were good enough for Dre. A lot of people like it because they WANT to like it, thus they manufacture proof as they lie to themselves but the fact that this album came and went like a fart in the breeze speaks volumes when it comes to drops by the mighty D R E as he might as well have called this album "Amnesia". I'd always suspected this album was his way to sacrifice Detox by releasing something sub par and then following it up with a 1/2 punch and knocking it out of the park with a follow up album that was mindblowingly different that combined his signature drums with orchestral pieces or something equally left field as I'd been hedging on his musical score to the planets concept being what he really wanted to do instead of treading the gangsta rap path again where there really was nothing left to be said and thus he'd use Compton as a counterpoint to springboard a grander sound and fanbase.If you're reading this Dre, it still ain't too late and I want 5% of the adjusted net for giving you this plan. I liked that album because the production was great, the vocals were on point, the concepts were tremendous, the overall sound rattled my speakers with post nut clarity......didn't have to force myself, anyone with an ear for great production can feel it. You don't like it because it's not what u expect from dre .. But let's say it was branded as king mez's debut album, u would call it a classic and best album of the year. That's the power of the mind in terms of relatively. But thats exactly my point, King Mez is wack ergo making this his debut instead of Dre's finale wouldn't change my perspective on this frisbee. Even a die hard fan as yourself must admit (even if it is quietly and to yourself) that the album is nowhere near ANY of Dres releases (yes Aftermath Presents... I'm looking at you too) in any category you'd care to pick. I'll also note that you said "Anyone with an ear for production" which resonates exactly with what I said about digging an instrumental version instead of those lame rhymes, horrendous flows and sub par features that attempted to pass for artistry on this album. Matter of fact the verses are so bad they detract from my enjoyment of the beats and mastering which once again proves my point (at least from my ears and eyes) that this is Dres weakest album ever.
Quote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: J-FUNKTION on August 14, 2016, 08:17:49 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like itAin't that the truth, you know the first time you heard the keys for Still DRE it was dope and it is still is, no matter how many spins you give it it can just pop up on random one day and have you vibing like the first time you played it, because its a hit. Hell you can pick out pretty much any Dre track pre Compton (well at leasts over 60% of his catalog to be accurate) and it will do the same thing. Compton on the other hand was quickly rushed to allow Dre to wash his hands of Detox and its hype that he could never deliver on - not by your expectations but his - by pretending it wasn't a Dre album per se and just created for the movie yada yada yada. It was a weak concept with poor execution, some interesting beats here and there thematically speaking, generally piss poor lyrics and the usual outstanding mastering. As I said back when it was released I'd love to hear the instrumental version and I'll guarantee you that Dre has tracks that he'd recorded for Detox that excrete all over this release even though they'll either be barebones, hardly finished or only have 492 different vocal takes - none of which were good enough for Dre. A lot of people like it because they WANT to like it, thus they manufacture proof as they lie to themselves but the fact that this album came and went like a fart in the breeze speaks volumes when it comes to drops by the mighty D R E as he might as well have called this album "Amnesia". I'd always suspected this album was his way to sacrifice Detox by releasing something sub par and then following it up with a 1/2 punch and knocking it out of the park with a follow up album that was mindblowingly different that combined his signature drums with orchestral pieces or something equally left field as I'd been hedging on his musical score to the planets concept being what he really wanted to do instead of treading the gangsta rap path again where there really was nothing left to be said and thus he'd use Compton as a counterpoint to springboard a grander sound and fanbase.If you're reading this Dre, it still ain't too late and I want 5% of the adjusted net for giving you this plan. I liked that album because the production was great, the vocals were on point, the concepts were tremendous, the overall sound rattled my speakers with post nut clarity......didn't have to force myself, anyone with an ear for great production can feel it. You don't like it because it's not what u expect from dre .. But let's say it was branded as king mez's debut album, u would call it a classic and best album of the year. That's the power of the mind in terms of relatively.
Quote from: J-FUNKTION on August 14, 2016, 08:17:49 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like itAin't that the truth, you know the first time you heard the keys for Still DRE it was dope and it is still is, no matter how many spins you give it it can just pop up on random one day and have you vibing like the first time you played it, because its a hit. Hell you can pick out pretty much any Dre track pre Compton (well at leasts over 60% of his catalog to be accurate) and it will do the same thing. Compton on the other hand was quickly rushed to allow Dre to wash his hands of Detox and its hype that he could never deliver on - not by your expectations but his - by pretending it wasn't a Dre album per se and just created for the movie yada yada yada. It was a weak concept with poor execution, some interesting beats here and there thematically speaking, generally piss poor lyrics and the usual outstanding mastering. As I said back when it was released I'd love to hear the instrumental version and I'll guarantee you that Dre has tracks that he'd recorded for Detox that excrete all over this release even though they'll either be barebones, hardly finished or only have 492 different vocal takes - none of which were good enough for Dre. A lot of people like it because they WANT to like it, thus they manufacture proof as they lie to themselves but the fact that this album came and went like a fart in the breeze speaks volumes when it comes to drops by the mighty D R E as he might as well have called this album "Amnesia". I'd always suspected this album was his way to sacrifice Detox by releasing something sub par and then following it up with a 1/2 punch and knocking it out of the park with a follow up album that was mindblowingly different that combined his signature drums with orchestral pieces or something equally left field as I'd been hedging on his musical score to the planets concept being what he really wanted to do instead of treading the gangsta rap path again where there really was nothing left to be said and thus he'd use Compton as a counterpoint to springboard a grander sound and fanbase.If you're reading this Dre, it still ain't too late and I want 5% of the adjusted net for giving you this plan.
Quote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like it
How can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes?
Quote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 01:57:01 PMQuote from: Sccit on August 14, 2016, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: J-FUNKTION on August 14, 2016, 08:17:49 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like itAin't that the truth, you know the first time you heard the keys for Still DRE it was dope and it is still is, no matter how many spins you give it it can just pop up on random one day and have you vibing like the first time you played it, because its a hit. Hell you can pick out pretty much any Dre track pre Compton (well at leasts over 60% of his catalog to be accurate) and it will do the same thing. Compton on the other hand was quickly rushed to allow Dre to wash his hands of Detox and its hype that he could never deliver on - not by your expectations but his - by pretending it wasn't a Dre album per se and just created for the movie yada yada yada. It was a weak concept with poor execution, some interesting beats here and there thematically speaking, generally piss poor lyrics and the usual outstanding mastering. As I said back when it was released I'd love to hear the instrumental version and I'll guarantee you that Dre has tracks that he'd recorded for Detox that excrete all over this release even though they'll either be barebones, hardly finished or only have 492 different vocal takes - none of which were good enough for Dre. A lot of people like it because they WANT to like it, thus they manufacture proof as they lie to themselves but the fact that this album came and went like a fart in the breeze speaks volumes when it comes to drops by the mighty D R E as he might as well have called this album "Amnesia". I'd always suspected this album was his way to sacrifice Detox by releasing something sub par and then following it up with a 1/2 punch and knocking it out of the park with a follow up album that was mindblowingly different that combined his signature drums with orchestral pieces or something equally left field as I'd been hedging on his musical score to the planets concept being what he really wanted to do instead of treading the gangsta rap path again where there really was nothing left to be said and thus he'd use Compton as a counterpoint to springboard a grander sound and fanbase.If you're reading this Dre, it still ain't too late and I want 5% of the adjusted net for giving you this plan. I liked that album because the production was great, the vocals were on point, the concepts were tremendous, the overall sound rattled my speakers with post nut clarity......didn't have to force myself, anyone with an ear for great production can feel it. You don't like it because it's not what u expect from dre .. But let's say it was branded as king mez's debut album, u would call it a classic and best album of the year. That's the power of the mind in terms of relatively. But thats exactly my point, King Mez is wack ergo making this his debut instead of Dre's finale wouldn't change my perspective on this frisbee. Even a die hard fan as yourself must admit (even if it is quietly and to yourself) that the album is nowhere near ANY of Dres releases (yes Aftermath Presents... I'm looking at you too) in any category you'd care to pick. I'll also note that you said "Anyone with an ear for production" which resonates exactly with what I said about digging an instrumental version instead of those lame rhymes, horrendous flows and sub par features that attempted to pass for artistry on this album. Matter of fact the verses are so bad they detract from my enjoyment of the beats and mastering which once again proves my point (at least from my ears and eyes) that this is Dres weakest album ever. I PREFER CHRONIC OVER 2001 AND 2001 OVER COMPTON .. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT, THE ALBUM IS STILL EXCEPTIONAL FROM A PRODUCTION STANDPOINT. AND WIT DRE, VOCALS IS PART OF PRODUCTION, I DIDNT HEAR ONE WHACK FLOW ON THE ENTIRE ALBUM, JUST A DIFFERENT SOUND, AN EVOLUTION OF HIS PREVIOUS WORK MORE CONSISTENT WITH TODAY. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO SUB-PAR. THE STAND OUT TRACKS ARE PHENOMENAL. IN A DAYS WORK, ALL ON ME, DEEP WATER, ANIMALS, SATISFICTION, TALKIN TO MY DIARY, LOOSE CANNONS, FO THE LOVE OF MONEY, ETC..... IF U DONT LIKE THESE, U DONT LIKE GOOD HIP-HOP.
Quote from: Sccit on August 14, 2016, 02:37:05 PMQuote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 01:57:01 PMQuote from: Sccit on August 14, 2016, 12:40:31 PMQuote from: eyeball on August 14, 2016, 12:02:48 PMQuote from: J-FUNKTION on August 14, 2016, 08:17:49 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 12, 2016, 06:15:22 AMHow can something that was a chore to sit through in the first place even have replay ability. Are you a masochist? Listening to it with your beats headphones lined with sandpaper, wearing leather studded under pants (with the studs on the inside) on a battered public bus trundling over potholes? lolllll i tell my homie this all the time, how hilarious it is too see cats saying something was awful yet they force themselves to sit through it 10 more times and try to convince themselves that they like itAin't that the truth, you know the first time you heard the keys for Still DRE it was dope and it is still is, no matter how many spins you give it it can just pop up on random one day and have you vibing like the first time you played it, because its a hit. Hell you can pick out pretty much any Dre track pre Compton (well at leasts over 60% of his catalog to be accurate) and it will do the same thing. Compton on the other hand was quickly rushed to allow Dre to wash his hands of Detox and its hype that he could never deliver on - not by your expectations but his - by pretending it wasn't a Dre album per se and just created for the movie yada yada yada. It was a weak concept with poor execution, some interesting beats here and there thematically speaking, generally piss poor lyrics and the usual outstanding mastering. As I said back when it was released I'd love to hear the instrumental version and I'll guarantee you that Dre has tracks that he'd recorded for Detox that excrete all over this release even though they'll either be barebones, hardly finished or only have 492 different vocal takes - none of which were good enough for Dre. A lot of people like it because they WANT to like it, thus they manufacture proof as they lie to themselves but the fact that this album came and went like a fart in the breeze speaks volumes when it comes to drops by the mighty D R E as he might as well have called this album "Amnesia". I'd always suspected this album was his way to sacrifice Detox by releasing something sub par and then following it up with a 1/2 punch and knocking it out of the park with a follow up album that was mindblowingly different that combined his signature drums with orchestral pieces or something equally left field as I'd been hedging on his musical score to the planets concept being what he really wanted to do instead of treading the gangsta rap path again where there really was nothing left to be said and thus he'd use Compton as a counterpoint to springboard a grander sound and fanbase.If you're reading this Dre, it still ain't too late and I want 5% of the adjusted net for giving you this plan. I liked that album because the production was great, the vocals were on point, the concepts were tremendous, the overall sound rattled my speakers with post nut clarity......didn't have to force myself, anyone with an ear for great production can feel it. You don't like it because it's not what u expect from dre .. But let's say it was branded as king mez's debut album, u would call it a classic and best album of the year. That's the power of the mind in terms of relatively. But thats exactly my point, King Mez is wack ergo making this his debut instead of Dre's finale wouldn't change my perspective on this frisbee. Even a die hard fan as yourself must admit (even if it is quietly and to yourself) that the album is nowhere near ANY of Dres releases (yes Aftermath Presents... I'm looking at you too) in any category you'd care to pick. I'll also note that you said "Anyone with an ear for production" which resonates exactly with what I said about digging an instrumental version instead of those lame rhymes, horrendous flows and sub par features that attempted to pass for artistry on this album. Matter of fact the verses are so bad they detract from my enjoyment of the beats and mastering which once again proves my point (at least from my ears and eyes) that this is Dres weakest album ever. I PREFER CHRONIC OVER 2001 AND 2001 OVER COMPTON .. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT, THE ALBUM IS STILL EXCEPTIONAL FROM A PRODUCTION STANDPOINT. AND WIT DRE, VOCALS IS PART OF PRODUCTION, I DIDNT HEAR ONE WHACK FLOW ON THE ENTIRE ALBUM, JUST A DIFFERENT SOUND, AN EVOLUTION OF HIS PREVIOUS WORK MORE CONSISTENT WITH TODAY. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO SUB-PAR. THE STAND OUT TRACKS ARE PHENOMENAL. IN A DAYS WORK, ALL ON ME, DEEP WATER, ANIMALS, SATISFICTION, TALKIN TO MY DIARY, LOOSE CANNONS, FO THE LOVE OF MONEY, ETC..... IF U DONT LIKE THESE, U DONT LIKE GOOD HIP-HOP. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND CAN SEE THAT YOU MUST REALLY FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT IT TOO SO ILL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SAY THAT I AGREE THAT CHRONIC IS BETTER THAN 2001 AND 2001 IS BETTER THAN COMPTON SO IN EFFECT WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING, LIKE A SIMILE OR EVEN A SMILEY IF YOUR DYSLEXIC
Almost .. Just that you're sayin it's whack, and I'm sayin it's exceptional
Quote from: Sccit on August 15, 2016, 04:43:40 PMAlmost .. Just that you're sayin it's whack, and I'm sayin it's exceptional Breh it is wack as it falls far short of what Dre usually creates in terms of re playability and the whole head nod factor I've come to associate with this mans production for the past 30 years. The gap between this album and the rest is immense in terms of everything from impact, quality of the songs, the timeless factor and the whole game changing aspect. None of it was present as Dre, for the first time, tried to ride current trends to get hot instead of carving his own lane as he'd done previously, hence its a wack album. The fact that I can just state this as a fact, move on and enjoy breakfast whilst you've got to sit there and force your point speaks volumes though doesn't it? Even though you agree that its not anywhere near his previous work you then still got to cop pleas and say its exceptional, make up your mind - is it oochie walley or is it one mic?
Has anybody actually witnessed anyone bumping this album? Like been out and heard it playing from a car stereo system or at a party or club?I mean I consider it an instant classic but its like I'm the only one. I even played "Talk About It" at a party once and there was no reaction. And I played it for some of my friends in the ride.... And again no reaction......Has anyone played this for anyone in person (outside the Internet) and what was the feedback?
Quote from: eyeball on August 16, 2016, 04:28:42 AMQuote from: Sccit on August 15, 2016, 04:43:40 PMAlmost .. Just that you're sayin it's whack, and I'm sayin it's exceptional Breh it is wack as it falls far short of what Dre usually creates in terms of re playability and the whole head nod factor I've come to associate with this mans production for the past 30 years. The gap between this album and the rest is immense in terms of everything from impact, quality of the songs, the timeless factor and the whole game changing aspect. None of it was present as Dre, for the first time, tried to ride current trends to get hot instead of carving his own lane as he'd done previously, hence its a wack album. The fact that I can just state this as a fact, move on and enjoy breakfast whilst you've got to sit there and force your point speaks volumes though doesn't it? Even though you agree that its not anywhere near his previous work you then still got to cop pleas and say its exceptional, make up your mind - is it oochie walley or is it one mic? You the one typin up paragraphs after we both came to our conclusions .. Seems like u got a lil somethin extra beyond music goin there
Quote from: Sccit on August 16, 2016, 10:35:42 AMQuote from: eyeball on August 16, 2016, 04:28:42 AMQuote from: Sccit on August 15, 2016, 04:43:40 PMAlmost .. Just that you're sayin it's whack, and I'm sayin it's exceptional Breh it is wack as it falls far short of what Dre usually creates in terms of re playability and the whole head nod factor I've come to associate with this mans production for the past 30 years. The gap between this album and the rest is immense in terms of everything from impact, quality of the songs, the timeless factor and the whole game changing aspect. None of it was present as Dre, for the first time, tried to ride current trends to get hot instead of carving his own lane as he'd done previously, hence its a wack album. The fact that I can just state this as a fact, move on and enjoy breakfast whilst you've got to sit there and force your point speaks volumes though doesn't it? Even though you agree that its not anywhere near his previous work you then still got to cop pleas and say its exceptional, make up your mind - is it oochie walley or is it one mic? You the one typin up paragraphs after we both came to our conclusions .. Seems like u got a lil somethin extra beyond music goin there Sup pot, they call me kettle and I gotta say your hue looking kinda familiar...
Agree with eyeball. Not one Compton track sticks in my head. No beat, melody, rhyme, nothing. Only one decent track to me, "Talking To My Diary" and I would rate that track like a 6.5 outta 10.