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wasn’t their land to begin with
I really can’t fathom how anyone can deny ethnic cleansing took place in Palestine, when even Israel’s very own IDF archives contain details of some of these ethnic cleansing operations and massacres, as does many of Ben Gurions diary entries and the Hagana archives just to name some of them. Take away the Deir Yassin Massacre (which was disgusting on its own) others like Haifa have never really been given too much attention, despite major atrocities being carried out there against children. And Israel have ignored UN resolutions too. May want to look up UN resolution 194 if you deny that as well as they have blatantly ignored any attempt to make right what they did wrong, and still do. Only last week an Israeli sniper had shot a little 9 year old kid Abdelrahman in the head. This comes after them shooting that other kid in the back and killing him just last month. I really can’t get my head around anyone supporting this kind of rotten behaviour.The ironic thing is, that Israel have been doing to the Palestinians for 70 years what they have accused the Nazis of doing to them for 8 years. I’m just glad we live in a world where there are still those with a moral compass out there who stand by the plight of the Palestinians, those that simply won’t bend over and comply with the erosion of rights, property, and basic humanity.
Quote from: Sccit on January 11, 2020, 01:47:16 PMwasn’t their land to begin with That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into context
Quote from: V2DHeart on January 14, 2020, 04:00:20 AMQuote from: Sccit on January 11, 2020, 01:47:16 PMwasn’t their land to begin with That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into contextand like i said, every nation was conquered at one point or another, and most of them with far less rights to do so .. how many of them are still fighting a lost war tho? the native americans will never be legally signed over america by the governing people, so that was an awful example .. a better example would be “imagine it native americans were still blowing up buses in america because they were mad that it’s no longer their land” ..... only europeans never had real claim to america in the first place, so that would actually be far more understandable than what the arabs are doin, as absurd as it may sound.
Quote from: Sccit on January 14, 2020, 09:00:46 AMQuote from: V2DHeart on January 14, 2020, 04:00:20 AMQuote from: Sccit on January 11, 2020, 01:47:16 PMwasn’t their land to begin with That poor justification can applied to almost any nation in 2020. This does not give anyone the right to bulldoze over an entire population.“Used to be our ancestors land thousands upon thousands of years ago in biblical times therefore were taking it back by blood thirsty force” - It just sounds like a childish attempt to mask over the callous greed, lack of empathy and type of people they are.That’s like Native Americans obtaining hundreds of millions in foreign “aid” (and would have a better argument for it than the Jews) and beginning to carry out massacres all over the United States to take back their land, murdering thousands of innocents and confining the surviving Americans into a small ghetto-like state. And the world just sits back and watches, not in 2020 but like say in the year 4020. That’s how ridiculous this entire thing is when you put it into contextand like i said, every nation was conquered at one point or another, and most of them with far less rights to do so .. how many of them are still fighting a lost war tho? the native americans will never be legally signed over america by the governing people, so that was an awful example .. a better example would be “imagine it native americans were still blowing up buses in america because they were mad that it’s no longer their land” ..... only europeans never had real claim to america in the first place, so that would actually be far more understandable than what the arabs are doin, as absurd as it may sound.You missed the point. The Native Americans are supposed to be the Jews in that analogy, ‘not’ the Palestinians! I am saying that this is like Native Americans springing up from 500 - 1000 years from now, carrying out ethnic cleansing. and murdering white Americans and destroying their homes and expelling them to labour camps and cramped and controlled ghettos, by staking historical claim to the land. All while ignoring UN resolutions. The only difference is that the native Americans have a somewhat more legitimate claim to the land due to it being more recent
What Arab propaganda? It’s common knowledge now that the Jewish have a monopoly on news distribution in the West, and it’s known on the origins of Hollywood. You’d be hard pressed to find a pro-Arab narrative in any Western country under those conditions. France has just recently criminalised the boycotting of Israel, with UK and US strongly in favour of pro-Israel policies. No, you’d have to dig a little to get an informed and more impartial opinion, let alone one that was predominantly pro-Arab. There was nothing I listed that was propagandist in nature. As mentioned before, the ethnic cleansing operations are in Israel’s very own IDF archives. Some of Ben Gurions diary and meeting excerpts define and correlate with what is in these archives too. Every month there is an atrocity of some kind involving the murder of an innocent child or civilian. There is footage of the Muhammad al-Durrah incident that caused international outrage. Last month that boy who was shot in the back only went to court thanks to the leaked camera phone footage. The Israeli judge, Elad Persky, even said that it was a “a dubious form of entertainment”. The UN general assembly resolution 194 isn’t propaganda either. These is all verifiable facts. Comparing the Israeli treatment of Palestinians to the holocaust is no exaggeration and very accurate. One of the primary factors any official genocidal treatment begins with de-humanising a race or population. Israel has ‘openly’ done this in the 40’s (just like Germany did) and as mentioned before about Deir Yassin, well Israel had destroyed over 500 villages, some with thousands of residents and placed many of the former (and surviving) inhabitants into work based labour camps, right up until 1955 (sound familiar?) there are many many more similarities, but
So ethnic cleansing and how the Israelis have been treating the Palestinians for the past 70 years is acceptable? Murdering innocent kids for fun?Ignoring UN resolutions? Why, all because Israel have a superior military and were granted the land by the British the Palestinians should just lay down? Israel was only granted to the Jews in an accelerated fashion because of terrorist attacks carried out by the Jews against the British. This is known history that many pro-Israel supporters like to conveniently forget. Sorry, but I don’t accept that mindset of just lay over. If that were the case, France shouldn’t have even bothered fighting the superior German military during WW2. Hell, Tank man should have simply moved out of the way of those tanks at Tiananmen Square. Also the analogy is not trash, you’re just not understanding it. So I’ll try and simplify it so that it’s better understood;1) The Jews during the 20’s / 30’s staked historical claim on the land of Palestine, which the majority of inhabitants are unsurprisingly Palestinians, who had lived there for hundreds (/ thousands) of years.(A lot of white Americans have stayed in the US for over 100 years now, similar to the Palestinians of which the Jews claim are not actually ingenuous inhabitants of the land, that, they, the Jews are, despite no concrete evidence other than staking claim based on excerpts from the Talmud and other flimsy “evidence”. This is why I said that this is just like the Native Americans coming out a thousand years from now and staking claim and a take back of land from white Americans. 2) The Jews then start ethnic cleansing operations against those who have and are actually currently living on the land in the hundreds of thousands! Many massacred and deported into work based labour camps. Hence why I said this is like the Native Americans (who actually have a better argument and stake of claim to the US, than the Jews do to Palestine) hundreds of years from now going on a rampage and thinning out every state of all of the white / black Americans, murdering many and enclosing many into camps of ghettos and continuing the discriminatory, and even criminal actions against the white / black Americans.I have never understood this desire for non Jews to cheerlead so passionately for a state, whose main religious message via the Talmud expressively states that the role of non Jews is simply to serve Jews. Judging by your earlier responses, you seem like a compliant, do-as-your-told-kind of person. That’s all fine and well when states operate a bit more humanely, awful when verging towards tyranny
if you truly care to learn how they have u by the balls, then read this:https://jcpa.org/overview_palestinian_manipulation/manufacturing_and_exploiting_compassion_abuse_of_the_media/also your ideas on the talmud are based on nazi propaganda .... basically your entire ideology is based on misinformation. it’s very sad that people like u spew this nonsense without doing the genuine research. http://talmud.faithweb.com/
so the israelis act like victims but palestinians don’t? lollllllllbottom line they been needed to fall back .. right now 95% of idf purpose is to protect israel against a constant threat. if palestinians let go then everything would be fine n dandy but they’re pride driven and stupidly stubborn. period.