It's May 14, 2024, 07:42:05 PM
no but sadly I can't keep him outta my top 3 anymore
A few things here.I think before, it was easy to look at Brady as NOT the GOAT because he may have won Super Bowls, but it was the way he won. Always on the last drive, but always with Adam Vinatier kicking or a failed comeback by the other team. It was never Brady marching down the field and actually winning the game like we saw with Montana. When you did see that in 2008, Eli threw that crazy pass that stuck to the guys helmet, which killed a great moment of Brady throwing to Moss on what I thought was the game winning touchdown.Also, Brady's stats were always just okay. I had him many times in fantasy and that cost me, except the Moss years. With all that said, this was Brady's moment. This was his signature win. This puts him in the top 3 at least all time. You can't argue anymore of him not being a top QB. He led that comeback in the end, threw the game winning touchdown in OT. He's now in the conversation of greatest QB's of all time. I think you have to look at different eras. What would happen if Montana played in today's era, would his career lasted as long as Brady's, how great would Otto Graham be with a modern offense. All of those questions are legit questions, and will be debated for years and years and years. But one question that will not be debated is if Brady belongs in this conversation. He's up there. With all that said, I must reminder everyone... IT WAS A FUMBLE!
https://www.youtube.com/v/ixloKY7HoWsBasically when Brady pump faked, he started to tuck the ball in as both hands were on the ball. Once that happened, it should have been ruled that he was carrying the ball. But the refs counted the "tucking" of the ball into his body as part of the forward motion therefore it was an incomplete pass. But it should have been ruled a fumble, which would have sealed the game. The reason for the fumble is once both hands are on the ball, he's not attempting to pass but rather carrying the ball like in a running play. If you are carrying the ball, and are stripped that's a fumble.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 07, 2017, 09:45:53 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/v/ixloKY7HoWsBasically when Brady pump faked, he started to tuck the ball in as both hands were on the ball. Once that happened, it should have been ruled that he was carrying the ball. But the refs counted the "tucking" of the ball into his body as part of the forward motion therefore it was an incomplete pass. But it should have been ruled a fumble, which would have sealed the game. The reason for the fumble is once both hands are on the ball, he's not attempting to pass but rather carrying the ball like in a running play. If you are carrying the ball, and are stripped that's a fumble. That was terrible .. Raiders made it to the Super Bowl the next year tho, I remember that like it was yesterday
It's been 16 years of sheer dominance. The favorite to win next year too, To put it in perspective for this site; imagine Kobe was still in the league, going strong, winning titles & me coming on here being like "meh, it's a cycle".Colin Cowherd actually dropped a bomb statistic that wins the argument. He set it up by the obvious "If your QB has to throw 50 times a game, it tells you that you got no running game, your defense is letting up points, you're probably behind & the opposing defense knows you have to throw the ball...worst case scenario for an offense".Given that, among the greatest names ever to have to throw the ball 50 times a game, it was like Marino & Brees are 5-5 & 5-11 & everyone else is well under .500. Brady is 18-9 in those games. That's pure separation from the pack.You can be a guy like Shallow (waiting for him) & come on here & start talking about 40 years ago or "if Peyton Manning had the AFC pro bowl team in Indy..", but the reality is the man has been flawless for 16 years & do you really believe they won't at least go 11-5 next year & likely be in the AFC title game?