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TOM BRADY THE GOAT?

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Chamillitary Click:
Undeniable.

Chamillitary Click:
Forever.

M Dogg™:
Meh. What I've learn is someone will come and everyone will claim them the GOAT in the future, then some sports hipsters will still argue for Brady, or Montana, or Otto Graham, as the greatest and say the game was more violent or it had better players that the future. It's a cycle.

Chamillitary Click:
It's been 16 years of sheer dominance. The favorite to win next year too,

To put it in perspective for this site; imagine Kobe was still in the league, going strong, winning titles & me coming on here being like "meh, it's a cycle".

Colin Cowherd actually dropped a bomb statistic that wins the argument. He set it up by the obvious "If your QB has to throw 50 times a game, it tells you that you got no running game, your defense is letting up points, you're probably behind & the opposing defense knows you have to throw the ball...worst case scenario for an offense".

Given that, among the greatest names ever to have to throw the ball 50 times a game, it was like Marino & Brees are 5-5 & 5-11 & everyone else is well under .500. Brady is 18-9 in those games. That's pure separation from the pack.

You can be a guy like Shallow (waiting for him) & come on here & start talking about 40 years ago or "if Peyton Manning had the AFC pro bowl team in Indy..", but the reality is the man has been flawless for 16 years & do you really believe they won't at least go 11-5 next year & likely be in the AFC title game?

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on February 08, 2017, 10:51:19 AM ---It's been 16 years of sheer dominance. The favorite to win next year too,

To put it in perspective for this site; imagine Kobe was still in the league, going strong, winning titles & me coming on here being like "meh, it's a cycle".

Colin Cowherd actually dropped a bomb statistic that wins the argument. He set it up by the obvious "If your QB has to throw 50 times a game, it tells you that you got no running game, your defense is letting up points, you're probably behind & the opposing defense knows you have to throw the ball...worst case scenario for an offense".

Given that, among the greatest names ever to have to throw the ball 50 times a game, it was like Marino & Brees are 5-5 & 5-11 & everyone else is well under .500. Brady is 18-9 in those games. That's pure separation from the pack.

You can be a guy like Shallow (waiting for him) & come on here & start talking about 40 years ago or "if Peyton Manning had the AFC pro bowl team in Indy..", but the reality is the man has been flawless for 16 years & do you really believe they won't at least go 11-5 next year & likely be in the AFC title game?

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I don't argue Kobe is the greatest player ever. That's Sccit. It's why he and I argue and he says I'm not a real Laker fan. Like right now, people saying LeBron could be better than Jordan. Do I think he's better than Jordan, that's laughable. But if LeBron played Michael one on one in both primes, I'm putting my money on LeBron. But last shot, to win the game, give me Michael. In QB's, I actually like Brady's style of play. He's a smart QB, very few mistakes and he's basically the new, better Joe Montana. Similar styles, but newer players are stronger, faster and better trained than older players, it's just fact. But in 20, 30 years, we'll say the same thing about the next great QB. One day we'll finally get the best black QB ever, who takes the style of Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, Cam Newton, and everyone will throw around the title GOAT to that person. It just is. I use to argue Magic as the GOAT ball player, but as I watch NBA players today, they do things Magic could never do. At the same time, they don't come off as "greater" than Magic to me. I'll end it like this, GOAT player, that argument is irrelevant. To me, it's who's the best of each era, and who came out with more rings and memorable moments. In that case, Brady for 15 years has dominated. He led the Patriot team to dominate in 2 decades. That's NEVER happened before. Usually when you win in one decade, you don't return for a while. The Browns of the 50's, Packers of the 60's, the Steelers of the 70's, the 49ers of the 80's, the Cowboys of the 90's. Then you have the Patriots of the 00's, which makes sense, but then the Patriots of the '10! That's AMAZING! No franchise has dominated like that. For that, you have to say they have ran a great franchise. And that's what will be remembered.

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