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Quote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 06:53:21 PMIt's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate.
It's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex
musically I will never ever acknowledge Carter III as a classic because there were most definitely a handful of garbage tracks that I skipped back then and still do now, but in terms of impact I hate to agree with you lol Carter 1 and II >>> though
Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 27, 2017, 07:31:24 PMQuote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 06:53:21 PMIt's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate. I'm not hating, that actually IS my opinion....and now you mad, when u claim u were the one tryna make me mad just a few posts up lolsmh.it's guna take me a full working day to come up with a list fulla hip-hop classics. no way Jose.
Quote from: Blood$ on February 27, 2017, 05:42:28 PMmusically I will never ever acknowledge Carter III as a classic because there were most definitely a handful of garbage tracks that I skipped back then and still do now, but in terms of impact I hate to agree with you lol Carter 1 and II >>> thoughI like II myself. LOL. But it's got too many tracks and some of them bring the album down. III had a LOT of singles, and a LOT of garbage. But it basically created that mumble rap shit that's still here 9 years later, mainly because Wayne was too high of syzurp to even rap correctly. Quote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 07:35:24 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on February 27, 2017, 07:31:24 PMQuote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 06:53:21 PMIt's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex I challenge you to make yours. You wouldn't, because you have no opinions. Just hate. I'm not hating, that actually IS my opinion....and now you mad, when u claim u were the one tryna make me mad just a few posts up lolsmh.it's guna take me a full working day to come up with a list fulla hip-hop classics. no way Jose.IF I WAS MAD I'D TYPE IN CAPS LOCK LIKE YOU. LMAO.Nah homie, I'm just challenging you because I did take time. I took that time to create a list. I actually did it for myself, because I want to start to collect these on vinyl. I was going to start to order, and buy each one and create a collection of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time. Once I was done, I thought, hey, this is some shit I should throw up on DubCC because why the fuck not? It creates conversation, debate, controversy.
Quote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 06:53:21 PMIt's still a garbage list lol .. Like bloodmoney said, some generic list you would see on complex Got to go with my x-homie Sccit on this one.... MDogg your list is too generic like something out of a Complex magazine. Like... "Oh I can't put Slim Shady LP because I already have two other Eminem albums and then I wouldn't look critical enough, and I have to be fair and put Lil Wayne on there..." and still how can you leave G Funk Era and Dogg Food off? Overall it's not a bad list and appreciate the covers to go with it... ...and actually Sccit's would probably be worse if he posted it all out with pics like MDogg did, it would have B list/3rd rate artists like Brotha Lynch and X-Raided on there and probably his friend Roccy
Haha, you all are proving my original point. In Hip Hop the word classic gets thrown around to much. The word classic is makes in Hip Hop. I post sixty sounds, and then, what about this, what about that? Then you take an album it like Wayne, but then you go, will it makes sense because to be fair to that horrible style of rap everyone has been doing for 9 fucking years. Take out Kendrick, but I'd argue Chronic was a classic in one year, and both K Dot's albums are the critical successes of this horrible era. Bottom line, the word classic gets thrown around Hip Hop too damn much. There are no Hip Hop classics. The weird should only be used for at most 10 albums. That would be if, Run DMC, Paid in Full, Criminal Minded, Straight Outta Compton, Chronic, Illmatic, Me Against the World, Ready to Die, maybe Blueprint, maybe something else. But the world classic gets thrown around too much, look at my post before I start listing stuff. My "generic" list started as a vinyl list for my personal self, then thought I'd share it a couple years ago to create some conversation and controversy. To me, the list was trying to capture different Hip Hop essential albums. Like you HAVE to own these albums to understand the diversity of Hip Hop. Even Lil' Wayne. But classics, there are only so many classics, it's a watered down word we get mad when someone doesn't think our favorite album isn't 5 mic worthy.
Because a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album. Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 27, 2017, 09:43:16 PMBecause a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album. Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.so because others like it, it's classic....just like I said, sheep mentality. basically, if the general consensus told u that a piece of shit wrapped in plastic was classic, you'd be inclined to agree.cmon nowclas·sicˈklasik/Submitadjective1.judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.thats the definition. if u don't consider carter III OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, then its not a classic. period.
Quote from: Sccit on February 27, 2017, 11:26:11 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on February 27, 2017, 09:43:16 PMBecause a lot of people thought it was so good that they try to recreate it. It started something that I may not understand, or even like, but you can't deny that others like it. To not understand that it created a movement is to be stubborn. So it was thrown into my list, because it's an essential Hip Hop album. Since originally making the list myself, I switched what classic makes to me. To me we over use the word classic. Years ago I'd call my list classics, now I only use that word for lack of a better word. I'd say there are only like 10 real classics, the rest are great albums, masterpieces, whatever you want to call them. But I think of it like this, if I had to pick albums to put in the library of Congress to document Hip Hop, and I only had 10, what would I pick? Maybe it's 9, maybe I'd need 11 or 12. But the word classic has to be toned down, because you can't have 100 classic albums.so because others like it, it's classic....just like I said, sheep mentality. basically, if the general consensus told u that a piece of shit wrapped in plastic was classic, you'd be inclined to agree.cmon nowclas·sicˈklasik/Submitadjective1.judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.thats the definition. if u don't consider carter III OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY, then its not a classic. period.Nah, if you have read what I've said in this thread, I said that yes, 2 years ago I'd called these classics, but I don't anymore. I think the word classic gets used too much. I'd call this a list of influential albums, which the Carter III is influential, or maybe essential albums to knowing about Hip-Hop. But I'd narrow a list of classics to maybe 10 albums, maybe 15. The word classic is used too damn much. This definition: judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.Nothing from Brotha Lynch & X-Raided fits that. Outside the westcoast, really Warren G doesn't fit that, outside the south Lil' Wayne doesn't fit that. If I was to narrow down the list of what fits THAT description, I'd have 10-15 albums, 15 MAX. I'd have a lot of songs, A LOT of songs. I'd have a LOT of Bay Area songs. But whole albums, you can find fault in many albums. Warren G on the G Funk Era SUCKED in rapping, many albums have skits that completely throw off the feel of the album listening from front to back, lots of these albums have skipable tracks. So I DON'T consider Carter III highest quality. I also don't Warren G because of his rapping, Brotha Lynch, X-Raided, Kurupt on Streetz Iz A Mutha. Just because it's west coast and I prefer west coast music doesn't mean I have to label west coast classics as classics! Looking at the whole game, the grand scheme of things, Dogg Food didn't do much to move the needle in Hip-Hop. So just because I bump I Don't Like to Dream About Gettin' Paid the day before every payday don't mean it's a classic. It's a truly dope album, it's a west coast classic and if I was to make a list of albums from the west to listen to, so that person could understand west coast rap, it's be a top 10 album to check out. But that don't make it a classic. As I've said, classic gets WAY over used.
part of judging quality is judging how it moved people
The moment you start saying, well that's a classic, that's a classic, that's a classic, then what does classic even mean