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Crooked I Tour Dates?
love33:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 23, 2017, 08:50:50 PM ---This is a serious question though -- assuming he's not just going to fall back on Slaughterhouse shit for most of it, what "hits" would Crooked I perform at said concert? I can name off a bunch of his songs but I just don't see him as being a concert worthy act.
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He starts off spittin heat verses and freestyles, and he performs a bunch of stuff off "Good vs. Evil", he tells stories about his career, being young and broke from Long Beach, gettin hated on by the man, and Virgin Records to workin with Snoop Dogg, Death Row, the studio gettin shot up, bein in the studio til the sun comes up with Suge Knight, how he was on the label and gave every damn thing in his soul for that label, play a couple tracks, and Aftermath and everything that went down, and talk about Dr. Dre how great he is, -- he performs tracks by fan request so if you ask him to perform "I Love The Ghetto To Death", "Gangstas Holiday," or "Gd up and Banged Out" or "Death Row House Party" (some have requested these in LA shows in particular), they will spin it if they have it and he'll do a little bit of it and tell the story behind it, then go to the next track (mix in some newer stuff) -- But mostly it's been his Aftermath/Shady stuff, he's promoting his "Good vs Evil" album, He has a ton of stuff to perform, he mixes freestyles in too -- there were a bunch of unknown rappers with him in Ft Worth (I think they were Texas local talent, I'm not up on who all the Texas local acts are, but Tha Realest & Young Doobie who live right in that area in Grand Prarie & Oak Cliff, were not at the show, it would've been cool if he brought out his old friends and did a surprise reunion)
I don't get why he's not out on the road pushing himself HARD allover the USA -- he's in his 30s, that's when you really push yourself as an artist and make that house show money...he should be headlining shows or being the #2 or #3 act on shows 4 nights a week --
doing this one show here or there on a Tuesday night and a little mini-mention on Twitter doesn't really cut it (he could be right in your backyard and you could miss it!) -- His promotion sucks (actually, there is no promotion, so it just sucks) -- he could do so much more -- artists like DJ Quik, Too Short, Ice Cube, etc. -- they put their shit out hard on the net and they grind on the road hard for 3-4 months and just go city to city across the map and they make money -- like Crook has connections, he could have been doing some performance at Spring Break at Panama City Beach, South Padre Island, Daytona, Ft Lauderdale -- Lil Jon, for example, he hits Spring Break hard and does PCB, Padre, etc. -- cats like Juicy J, T-Pain, & Ying Yang Twinz headline shows at Spring Break, and he is no where to be found, like right now he could be at Miami Music Week -- really makes no sense how he markets himself!
When I was in Texas that week, I checked the classic throwback hip-hop station (they have an awesome throwback hip-hop station that plays E-40, Too Short, Dogg Pound, Scarface, Montel Jordan, Master P, 2Pac, etc. on it -- http://boom945.com/listen-live/ ), and I checked their new stations and there was ZERO promo about Crooked I playing right in town!
Hopefully Kxng Crooked will post up the concert on Youtube from Ft Worth that he just headlined -- he was also in Austin and San Antonio but he didn't headline those events they were pushed as local radio stations with a grip of artists -- He's a great act live but he seriously needs to promote himself -- it's ridiculous that even us hardcore fans can't find hardly anything on what's coming up or where he's at (he could be in your city tomorrow and you might not even know the promotion is so bad)
EFFeX:
Crook will often post upcoming show dates on his Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/CrookedIntriago)
I do my best to post them as they are announced at The Boss Board.
I'm revamping the whole concert section in a week or so, stay tuned for that.
SuperSpider:
Crook is generally terrible with promoting anything...whether it is a new album, shows he's doing or the infinite number of features he constantly keeps doing for other projects.... Makes it really difficult for fans to get a hold of everything he's on. >:(
Jay Wallace:
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---He starts off spittin heat verses and freestyles, and he performs a bunch of stuff off "Good vs. Evil", he tells stories about his career, being young and broke from Long Beach, gettin hated on by the man, and Virgin Records to workin with Snoop Dogg, Death Row, the studio gettin shot up, bein in the studio til the sun comes up with Suge Knight, how he was on the label and gave every damn thing in his soul for that label, play a couple tracks, and Aftermath and everything that went down, and talk about Dr. Dre how great he is, -- he performs tracks by fan request so if you ask him to perform "I Love The Ghetto To Death", "Gangstas Holiday," or "Gd up and Banged Out" or "Death Row House Party" (some have requested these in LA shows in particular), they will spin it if they have it and he'll do a little bit of it and tell the story behind it.
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Dude, you can’t expect shows to be booked like a playlist for a superfan’s personal concert. You generally don’t keep stopping your set to do “VH1 Storytellers” when you’re in that position. People go to concerts to hear music, not to hear the artist explain how the music was recorded.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---There were a bunch of unknown rappers with him in Ft Worth (I think they were Texas local talent, I'm not up on who all the Texas local acts are, but Tha Realest & Young Doobie who live right in that area in Grand Prarie & Oak Cliff, were not at the show, it would've been cool if he brought out his old friends and did a surprise reunion)
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Yes, that is generally how it works. They grab a bunch of young guys from the area. In exchange for putting them on, the local acts sell tickets to all their friends who live in the area. Established names cost money.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---Tha Realest & Young Doobie who live right in that area in Grand Prarie & Oak Cliff, were not at the show, it would've been cool if he brought out his old friends and did a surprise reunion.
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Few points here. Just because they “live” in the area does not mean they are sitting home, bored, waiting for something to do. Just because they recorded music on the same label, seventeen years ago, doesn’t mean, they are “old friends”.
And a “surprise reunion” of what? Unreleased music from a defunct label that people on message boards use to trade MP3’s of?
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
I don't get why he's not out on the road pushing himself HARD allover the USA -- he's in his 30s, that's when you really push yourself as an artist and make that house show money...he should be headlining shows or being the #2 or #3 act on shows 4 nights a week --
doing this one show here or there on a Tuesday night and a little mini-mention on Twitter doesn't really cut it (he could be right in your backyard and you could miss it!)
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This is actually how the majority of rappers grind.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---His promotion sucks (actually, there is no promotion, so it just sucks) -- he could do so much more -- artists like DJ Quik, Too Short, Ice Cube, etc. -- they put their shit out hard on the net and they grind on the road hard for 3-4 months and just go city to city across the map and they make money.
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You’re talking about artists with much bigger names, much deeper catalogs, significantly longer careers, and bigger fanbases. It should also be noted that even they don’t go “city to city across the map”. Quik and Short generally don’t do many shows in the East Coast.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
Crook has connections, he could have been doing some performance at Spring Break at Panama City Beach, South Padre Island, Daytona, Ft Lauderdale -- Lil Jon, for example, he hits Spring Break hard and does PCB, Padre, etc. -- cats like Juicy J, T-Pain, & Ying Yang Twinz headline shows at Spring Break, and he is no where to be found, like right now he could be at Miami Music Week -- really makes no sense how he markets himself!
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Lil Jon is a household name. He has a multi-platinum fanbase. If Crooked could be playing Miami Music Week, he would. It has nothing to do with how he markets himself. Has he ever even played in Miami before?
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
When I was in Texas that week, I checked the classic throwback hip-hop station (they have an awesome throwback hip-hop station that plays E-40, Too Short, Dogg Pound, Scarface, Montel Jordan, Master P, 2Pac, etc. on it -- http://boom945.com/listen-live/ ), and I checked their new stations and there was ZERO promo about Crooked I playing right in town!
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Unless the radio stations are promoting the event, why would there be any promo for it at all? We live in the social media age. Most people don’t sit around listening to the radio to hear about concerts in their cities, they hear about it on Facebook event pages that the venues create or that the artists share themselves on their Facebook/Twitter pages.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
He's a great act live but he seriously needs to promote himself -- it's ridiculous that even us hardcore fans can't find hardly anything on what's coming up or where he's at (he could be in your city tomorrow and you might not even know the promotion is so bad)
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Most regular concert goers are dialed into the venues they regularly buy tickets to on social media platforms. From the sounds of things, he’s not part of an official tour.
love33:
--- Quote from: Jay Wallace on March 29, 2017, 03:42:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---He starts off spittin heat verses and freestyles, and he performs a bunch of stuff off "Good vs. Evil", he tells stories about his career, being young and broke from Long Beach, gettin hated on by the man, and Virgin Records to workin with Snoop Dogg, Death Row, the studio gettin shot up, bein in the studio til the sun comes up with Suge Knight, how he was on the label and gave every damn thing in his soul for that label, play a couple tracks, and Aftermath and everything that went down, and talk about Dr. Dre how great he is, -- he performs tracks by fan request so if you ask him to perform "I Love The Ghetto To Death", "Gangstas Holiday," or "Gd up and Banged Out" or "Death Row House Party" (some have requested these in LA shows in particular), they will spin it if they have it and he'll do a little bit of it and tell the story behind it.
--- End quote ---
Dude, you can’t expect shows to be booked like a playlist for a superfan’s personal concert. You generally don’t keep stopping your set to do “VH1 Storytellers” when you’re in that position. People go to concerts to hear music, not to hear the artist explain how the music was recorded.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---There were a bunch of unknown rappers with him in Ft Worth (I think they were Texas local talent, I'm not up on who all the Texas local acts are, but Tha Realest & Young Doobie who live right in that area in Grand Prarie & Oak Cliff, were not at the show, it would've been cool if he brought out his old friends and did a surprise reunion)
--- End quote ---
Yes, that is generally how it works. They grab a bunch of young guys from the area. In exchange for putting them on, the local acts sell tickets to all their friends who live in the area. Established names cost money.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---Tha Realest & Young Doobie who live right in that area in Grand Prarie & Oak Cliff, were not at the show, it would've been cool if he brought out his old friends and did a surprise reunion.
--- End quote ---
Few points here. Just because they “live” in the area does not mean they are sitting home, bored, waiting for something to do. Just because they recorded music on the same label, seventeen years ago, doesn’t mean, they are “old friends”.
And a “surprise reunion” of what? Unreleased music from a defunct label that people on message boards use to trade MP3’s of?
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
I don't get why he's not out on the road pushing himself HARD allover the USA -- he's in his 30s, that's when you really push yourself as an artist and make that house show money...he should be headlining shows or being the #2 or #3 act on shows 4 nights a week --
doing this one show here or there on a Tuesday night and a little mini-mention on Twitter doesn't really cut it (he could be right in your backyard and you could miss it!)
--- End quote ---
This is actually how the majority of rappers grind.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---His promotion sucks (actually, there is no promotion, so it just sucks) -- he could do so much more -- artists like DJ Quik, Too Short, Ice Cube, etc. -- they put their shit out hard on the net and they grind on the road hard for 3-4 months and just go city to city across the map and they make money.
--- End quote ---
You’re talking about artists with much bigger names, much deeper catalogs, significantly longer careers, and bigger fanbases. It should also be noted that even they don’t go “city to city across the map”. Quik and Short generally don’t do many shows in the East Coast.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
Crook has connections, he could have been doing some performance at Spring Break at Panama City Beach, South Padre Island, Daytona, Ft Lauderdale -- Lil Jon, for example, he hits Spring Break hard and does PCB, Padre, etc. -- cats like Juicy J, T-Pain, & Ying Yang Twinz headline shows at Spring Break, and he is no where to be found, like right now he could be at Miami Music Week -- really makes no sense how he markets himself!
--- End quote ---
Lil Jon is a household name. He has a multi-platinum fanbase. If Crooked could be playing Miami Music Week, he would. It has nothing to do with how he markets himself. Has he ever even played in Miami before?
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
When I was in Texas that week, I checked the classic throwback hip-hop station (they have an awesome throwback hip-hop station that plays E-40, Too Short, Dogg Pound, Scarface, Montel Jordan, Master P, 2Pac, etc. on it -- http://boom945.com/listen-live/ ), and I checked their new stations and there was ZERO promo about Crooked I playing right in town!
--- End quote ---
Unless the radio stations are promoting the event, why would there be any promo for it at all? We live in the social media age. Most people don’t sit around listening to the radio to hear about concerts in their cities, they hear about it on Facebook event pages that the venues create or that the artists share themselves on their Facebook/Twitter pages.
--- Quote from: love33 on March 23, 2017, 10:54:35 PM ---
He's a great act live but he seriously needs to promote himself -- it's ridiculous that even us hardcore fans can't find hardly anything on what's coming up or where he's at (he could be in your city tomorrow and you might not even know the promotion is so bad)
--- End quote ---
Most regular concert goers are dialed into the venues they regularly buy tickets to on social media platforms. From the sounds of things, he’s not part of an official tour.
--- End quote ---
First off, I'm wondering if anyone saw him in Austin on March 31st (it was a FRIDAY Night) -- He had 2 cats I never heard of touring with him - J Soulja and Deezy Brown
Your diss to Doobie & Tha Realest: they were on the Death Row Records together, arguably the greatest most well known Gangsta Rap label of all time -- they were on the MTV commercial for Chronic 2000 -- they weren't in their basements trading MP3s when that was going on -- Doobie has himself on Dr. Dre tracks and Tha Realest on 2Pac material (how many people in their basement can say that?) -- Artists do reunions sometimes in low keys spots like this -- Why wouldn't Doobie & Realest come out and join Crooked? I've seen west coast acts where Tha Relativez are called on stage, or Ya Boy shows up -- just some random surprise acts -- I saw a Too Short concert one time in San Diego and CPO Boss Hog from Death Row Records showed up and did a couple opening tracks -- It's nice to see great reunions like on New Years Eve on FOX when they had all the old school acts like Treach, Scarface, Pitbull, Snoop, and Daz was DJing --
As far as that local radio station (follow that link and listen to it), they actually advertise local concerts on there ---> they did a lot of advertising for Mystikal, Juicy J, OT Genasys, 112, And K-Ci & JoJo -- I was surprised Crooked didn't get an advertisement in on that station considering they play a lot of Death Row and West Coast tracks!
Also, his style of story telling about his life, and then going into songs (sort of like a documentary, he only does it when he headlines otherwise he becomes a role player) -- I think that's kinda cool -- he talks about cats he knew that are in jail, starting out on Virgin, the struggle with Death Row -- I think he gets too political sometimes to be fair -- I don't want to sit at a concert to hear his politics, but I love his music and his raw talent -- and I think the stories about him and his career, are kinda cool -- I get what you are saying in a sense that most rappers just go into their stuff -- but if you ever see Too Short, he will sometimes tell a few lines of how he wrote a track, or out on tour this or that happened back in 89 with Eazy-E, or Blowjob Betty Story -- but Short does it real quick, like he tells the story really quick and jumps right into the track -- Crooked will walk around and go into a longer in-depth story like a documentary
Kxng Crooked is playing in San Antonio at Alamo City Music Hall with Bone Thugs N' Harmony and a bunch of other artists on April 26 -- Is anyone going? He's not headlining this one
I wonder when his next list of events are going to come out, this is the ONLY event I see he has posted -- he does good in Texas it seems -- just keep touring Crooked!
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