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Crooked I Tour Dates?
Jay Wallace:
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---First off, I'm wondering if anyone saw him in Austin on March 31st (it was a FRIDAY Night) -- He had 2 cats I never heard of touring with him - J Soulja and Deezy Brown
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This looks like this was a show booked by the club or an entertainment group representing it. This isn’t the same as an artist actually doing his own show. He’s essentially being paid by a promoter to do the gig.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---Your diss to Doobie & Tha Realest
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It wasn’t a diss to them. It was an explanation as to why the average fan isn’t going to respond with awe and amazement at their random, unannounced appearance at a concert in 2017 and why they weren’t at the show and likely won’t be at any other shows that they aren’t booked to appear at.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---They were on the Death Row Records together, arguably the greatest most well known Gangsta Rap label of all time.
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They weren’t on it at its peak period, which has a great effect on how familiar they are to an audience. Being a featured player during a time when the company was still at top is one thing. Being one after most of the audience has moved on is not the same.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---They were on the MTV commercial for Chronic 2000
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Hilariously irrelevant. Mentions on a TV ad that ran a handful times on cable TV in 1999 has no bearing to anything.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---They weren't in their basements trading MP3s when that was going on
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Nobody said they were.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---Doobie has himself on Dr. Dre tracks and Tha Realest on 2Pac material (how many people in their basement can say that?)
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None of these songs have been publicly released. Being on an unreleased song with an A-list star is not the same as being an A-list star yourself. If a significant portion of the general public hasn’t heard these songs, there is no real added value in bringing them up.
And why do you keep bringing up basements?
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---Artists do reunions sometimes in low keys spots like this
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Perhaps they do but your perception of “reunion” is a little odd. How does one get behind the reuniting of artists who don’t have a celebrated public history? They were never publicly put out like that on Death Row. Any music they recorded together at Death Row was not released. Crooked I and Doobie have never been on the same CD together at Death Row, let alone a released track.
It seems like you’re under the impression that because these artists all worked at the same label during a one or two-year period, eighteen years ago, that they were all this close-knit family who still hang out to this day. You’re also operating under the logic that a significant portion of the people who go to the venue are going to be aware of this history and celebrate it.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---Why wouldn't Doobie & Realest come out and join Crooked?
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The most obvious answers that come to mind are…
1) Because nobody booked them to appear on the show.
2) Because it didn’t make sense for Crooked to ask them to drive out and work on one of his gigs for free.
3) They were out of town with gigs of their own.
4) They are not close personal friends of Crooked I.
And for added food for thought…. MAYBE… confusing where recording artists resided when they were discovered with where they currently live could also be part of the problem. Most artists move to where they can network with other artists. By all accounts, Realest lives in California now and has for awhile.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---I've seen west coast acts where Tha Relativez are called on stage, or Ya Boy shows up -- just some random surprise acts -- I saw a Too Short concert one time in San Diego and CPO Boss Hog from Death Row Records showed up and did a couple opening tracks
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I have seen the same at shows I have attended but I have also been to plenty where that sort of thing doesn’t happen. To assume that this is going to happen at a show simply because you want it to is setting yourself up for disappointment.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM --- As far as that local radio station (follow that link and listen to it), they actually advertise local concerts on there ---> they did a lot of advertising for Mystikal, Juicy J, OT Genasys, 112, And K-Ci & JoJo -- I was surprised Crooked didn't get an advertisement in on that station considering they play a lot of Death Row and West Coast tracks!
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If the club paid Crook to perform for their show, he’s not going to take money out of his own pocket to pay for advertising. He likely got his money upfront.
love33:
--- Quote ---This looks like this was a show booked by the club or an entertainment group representing it. This isn’t the same as an artist actually doing his own show. He’s essentially being paid by a promoter to do the gig.
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It looks like he's bouncing around all over Texas, the San Antonio will be his fourth in a row in a stretched out time period (over 6 weeks) -- If he's the headline act, I believe he can bring his own DJ and a couple supporting acts (again, I don't know this for sure, this always depends on the contract -- people have strange things in these contracts like Lil Jon having 3 trays of chicken wings in his deals, and Tyga having 'chilled water at 68 degrees' in his agreements -- it's really just what the agreement has in it to be honest)
--- Quote ---They weren’t on it at its peak period, which has a great effect on how familiar they are to an audience. Being a featured player during a time when the company was still at top is one thing. Being one after most of the audience has moved on is not the same.
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Realest & Top Dogg were both on 'Gang Related' -- people talked about them and knew who they were who were heavy fans and readers of The Source -- the Row website had a lot of traffic, the interviews were hyped, the "Witness Tha Realest" "Every Dogg Has Its Day" albums were hyped as the new Death Row -- they had compilation albums (Chronic 2000, TGFR, Dysfunktional Family OST, etc.) -- people paid attention to the leaks of "Can't Mobb Deep" "Hotel Talk [Everything is Everything]", "Cindafella", "Goin Back to Cali," "All About U" video appearance had a lot of people talking about the 'new Death Row' and people were hyping Suge coming out of jail. Obviously, it never panned out like it could have
--- Quote ---None of these songs have been publicly released
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Wideawake released the "Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy" (as you know, plus some of those songs fell onto the compilations in the early 2000s) -- Sure, for the most part you're right, but they are allover YouTube -- I'm sure lots of people have searched YouTube for "Unreleased Death Row" and they see this stuff pop up -- I mean there's stream after stream of unreleased stuff easily accessible now -- but yeah, they will never have the pull of a 2Pac, Snoop, Dre, Nate Dogg, or Dogg Pound -- but the hardcore fans know they are there and they exist publicly
Good point about Doobie & Crooked I -- I always heard Crooked recorded for the self-titled "Young Doobie" album -- would be a good interview question or maybe we see something leak -- Eastwood recorded a lot of tracks with Top Dogg, a lot of people don't know that
This is Deezie Brown, who opened for Crook in Austin:
Okka:
I nominate love33 for the worst poster of the year. You sound like a broken record, goin' on and on about the same shit.
love33:
--- Quote from: Okka on April 10, 2017, 02:42:28 AM ---I nominate love33 for the worst poster of the year. You sound like a broken record, goin' on and on about the same shit.
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Like Crook & Bone in San Antonio
Okka:
--- Quote from: love33 on April 12, 2017, 02:04:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Okka on April 10, 2017, 02:42:28 AM ---I nominate love33 for the worst poster of the year. You sound like a broken record, goin' on and on about the same shit.
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Like Crook & Bone in San Antonio
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They sounded like a broken record?
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