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Crooked I Tour Dates?
love33:
Crook & Bone concert coming up -- that's NEW shit!
Jay Wallace:
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---Realest & Top Dogg were both on 'Gang Related' -- people talked about them and knew who they were who were heavy fans and readers of The Source.
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I’m calling bullshit on this one. For starters, they weren’t even recording as “Realest” and “Top Dogg” yet. They were Tenkamenin and YGD. And YGD wasn’t even on most versions. Your Source story is as bullshit as a lot of the other things you claimed to have read, seen, and heard on these forums.
One of the first mentions of Realest in The Source was as a gunshot victim in the coverage of the shooting that killed Kurupt’s bodyguard in 1999. They mistakenly called him “Realness” as did a lot of other media outlets who reported on the story.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---The Row website had a lot of traffic, the interviews were hyped, the "Witness Tha Realest" "Every Dogg Has Its Day" albums were hyped as the new Death Row
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I was on the website back then. I don’t ever recall them mentioning an official name for a Top Dogg album. There was one interview with Realest that came out after TG4R where he briefly mentioned an album but there was never serious hype. They also interviewed Swoop G and a couple other people.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---They had compilation albums (Chronic 2000, TGFR, Dysfunktional Family OST, etc.)
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Nope. Try again. Top Dogg was only on Chronic 2000. Realest was moved to an “artist in development” shortly after TGFR flopped. Neither one of them was on Dysfunktional Family OST.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---People paid attention to the leaks of "Can't Mobb Deep" "Hotel Talk [Everything is Everything]", "Cindafella", "Goin Back to Cali," "All About U" video appearance had a lot of people talking about the 'new Death Row' and people were hyping Suge coming out of jail.
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By people, you mean you and a handful of other hardcore fans. Far from the majority.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ----- I always heard Crooked recorded for the self-titled "Young Doobie" album
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Yeah, just like you “heard” Daz recorded his own version of Caught Up in the Game while at Death Row. You didn’t hear anything. You’re making it up to try and build credibility for another fake rumor you’re trying to start.
Okka:
I wonder if love33 actually thinks that people believe his stories.
love33:
--- Quote from: Jay Wallace on April 12, 2017, 03:29:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---Realest & Top Dogg were both on 'Gang Related' -- people talked about them and knew who they were who were heavy fans and readers of The Source.
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I’m calling bullshit on this one. For starters, they weren’t even recording as “Realest” and “Top Dogg” yet. They were Tenkamenin and YGD. And YGD wasn’t even on most versions. Your Source story is as bullshit as a lot of the other things you claimed to have read, seen, and heard on these forums.
One of the first mentions of Realest in The Source was as a gunshot victim in the coverage of the shooting that killed Kurupt’s bodyguard in 1999. They mistakenly called him “Realness” as did a lot of other media outlets who reported on the story.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---The Row website had a lot of traffic, the interviews were hyped, the "Witness Tha Realest" "Every Dogg Has Its Day" albums were hyped as the new Death Row
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I was on the website back then. I don’t ever recall them mentioning an official name for a Top Dogg album. There was one interview with Realest that came out after TG4R where he briefly mentioned an album but there was never serious hype. They also interviewed Swoop G and a couple other people.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---They had compilation albums (Chronic 2000, TGFR, Dysfunktional Family OST, etc.)
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Nope. Try again. Top Dogg was only on Chronic 2000. Realest was moved to an “artist in development” shortly after TGFR flopped. Neither one of them was on Dysfunktional Family OST.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ---People paid attention to the leaks of "Can't Mobb Deep" "Hotel Talk [Everything is Everything]", "Cindafella", "Goin Back to Cali," "All About U" video appearance had a lot of people talking about the 'new Death Row' and people were hyping Suge coming out of jail.
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By people, you mean you and a handful of other hardcore fans. Far from the majority.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 10, 2017, 01:40:45 AM ----- I always heard Crooked recorded for the self-titled "Young Doobie" album
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Yeah, just like you “heard” Daz recorded his own version of Caught Up in the Game while at Death Row. You didn’t hear anything. You’re making it up to try and build credibility for another fake rumor you’re trying to start.
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--- Quote ---I’m calling bullshit on this one. For starters, they weren’t even recording as “Realest” and “Top Dogg” yet. They were Tenkamenin and YGD. And YGD wasn’t even on most versions. Your Source story is as bullshit as a lot of the other things you claimed to have read, seen, and heard on these forums.
One of the first mentions of Realest in The Source was as a gunshot victim in the coverage of the shooting that killed Kurupt’s bodyguard in 1999. They mistakenly called him “Realness” as did a lot of other media outlets who reported on the story.
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I have the CD where they are both in the credits -- they are in the insert -- I'm surprised you don't know this and would call me out, I never talked about their monkiers, I said they were on the album, which I am 100% Correct! -- Top Dogg just mentioned this in his interview too -- and Tha Realest is known as Tenkamenin, and Chocolate Bandit are also in the credits -- this was Obvious to ANY fan that Top Dogg's diss track was buzzing -- it was even talked about as "Notorious BIG is gone and Death Row is pushing a diss track" convo -- On a lesser note, The Chocolate Bandit has a track called "Whatz Da Deal" that's also on the album and it's in the credits!
Daz was the LEAD PRODUCER when Doobie recorded that track they were both at Death Row together, and being the Lead Producer, like Cold187um said when he had the role, he said he knew every artist, their style, and every track that was flowing through that studio
Daz was cool with ALL the Row Arists -- until he got released from the label, then he tried to take the artists with him, and they didn't want to leave, so he was shocked they didn't bolt with him and then he dissed them; that's what the real beef is about -- he wanted to break the label and take some of the artists with him, and then he drove up the 5 freeway and met with JT The Bigga Figga, who taught him how to market and release an independent album (he then released his Death Row tracks "R.A.W.", which some of them also appeared on Tha Dogg Pound "2002")
There were at least 3 Interviews with Miles & Nate, the guys that ran ThaRow.Com and Tha Realest ALWAYS talked about his album -- and Top Dogg album was listed as coming soon and on fan sites Top Dogg had his album all listed on there "Every Dogg Has Its Day," "Daz Dillinger -- R.A.W.," "Crooked I - Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy," 2Pac "The Safe (4 Disc CD Set), Outlawz, Soopafly "Like It Or Not", Young Doobie "Young Doobie", "Mac Shawn," "El Dorado," "VK," "SKG (Suge Knight Girl)", "NINA Untitled Album", "Eastwood -- Born To Be Hated" (came later), and Top Dogg said in his Interviews it was "Every Dogg Has Its Day" -- Go look on YouTube, there are plenty of Tha Realest and Top Dogg Death Row tracks on there for you to listen to in your spare time.. I have tons of Top Dogg tracks, and he was supposed to be the main act (Suge put him on Dr. Dre tracks/beats, 2Pac videos on MTV, Suge put him against Snoop with Cindafella, etc.) -- He recorded for TGFR but it didn't make the album ("Hatin U" is a great track for you to lookup),
--- Quote ---Realest in The Source was as a gunshot victim in the coverage of the shooting that killed Kurupt’s bodyguard in 1999
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Yes, that happened, and The Source and MTV published it and then the feds raided the building on Wilshire Blvd, and Kurupt's bodyguard was shot -- this was around the time Death Row was trying to sign DMX -- Tha Realest did a track about how the label was BlackBalled
--- Quote ---Nope. Try again. Top Dogg was only on Chronic 2000. Realest was moved to an “artist in development” shortly after TGFR flopped. Neither one of them was on Dysfunktional Family OST.
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Tha Realest is one of the main artists on Chronic 2000, he's on 7 tracks! Realest recorded tracks with Daz where Daz talks about "Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realest comin way too RAW, you ain't known? Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realestt...WE just way too Real -- We right here -- You want some of this? Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realest!! Beeeyatch!" Daz was recording with Tha Realest, he was representing to the fullest about how they are going to ride together, and then Daz helped Realest with his porn video "Because of U Girl" (you prob saw it on Death Row Uncut with all the whores in the video), and DAZ got tracks with Doobie too; Daz was the MAIN Producer on the label -- Every time I read your posts, it's starting to sound like I'm watching 'Fake News CNN'! You know these guys were all hanging together and recording records, including the tracks Daz did with Realest, and he was supposed to be the big producer on the 2Pac albums.... I hope Tha Realest leaks more stuff
--- Quote --- This looks like this was a show booked by the club or an entertainment group representing it. This isn’t the same as an artist actually doing his own show. He’s essentially being paid by a promoter to do the gig.
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A show is a show -- he's touring Texas and he headlined the show in Ft Worth and Austin -- he did Ft Worth on a Tuesday Night and headlined the show (go read his Twitter) -- Crook is HUGE in Texas!! He played the Live Oak Music Hall -- That's why he lives there on concerts the last 3 months~ I love listening to Crook, Tha Realest, Daz, Mac Shawn... all those guys make great music -- if they were all labelmates again today, it would be something to look at!
Jay Wallace:
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---I have the CD where they are both in the credits -- they are in the insert -- I'm surprised you don't know this and would call me out.
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I said YGD “wasn’t on most versions”. The majority of prints of the album do not contain that track.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---I never talked about their monkiers, I said they were on the album, which I am 100% Correct
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Once again, YGD is on SOME versions of the album. The same way that “G’z Up, Hoes Down” is on SOME versions of Doggystyle.
The discussion of monikers is in response to your argument of their BUZZ and how much people “knew who they were and talked about them”. If their buzz was heavy off that album, they generally wouldn’t go and change both their names and monikers on the next album.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---This was Obvious to ANY fan that Top Dogg's diss track was buzzing -- it was even talked about as "Notorious BIG is gone and Death Row is pushing a diss track" convo.
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This was a message board conversation, not a national print or television one. Buzz is a bit of a stretch in this regard. It was a track that was not included on most versions so fans of West Coast music talked about it on message boards. It wasn’t like Carson Daily was sitting around on TRL talking about that shit.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---On a lesser note, The Chocolate Bandit has a track called "Whatz Da Deal" that's also on the album and it's in the credits!
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Yes, it’s on the same versions that feature the YGD track. In other words, not every album and not every credit.
Hmmm…..
http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0000/142/MI0000142189.jpg?partner=allrovi.com
https://www.rapmusicguide.com/amass/images/inventory/16113/Death%20Row%20Archives%20-%20The%20Soundtracks%20insert.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/cd-gang-related-2pac-the-soundtrack-D_NQ_NP_311-MLB4682584481_072013-F.jpg
https://www.rapmusicguide.com/cd/5906/gang-related-the-soundtrack
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1632062/a/gang+related.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_Related_%E2%80%93_The_Soundtrack
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Gang-Related-The-Soundtrack/release/1236530
Kind of funny how so many online sources are posting up back covers and track lists that don’t have either of these songs on there.
It’s also funny how you just coincidentally brought up the Chocolate Bandit song as a “FYI” when nobody even mentioned it. It’s almost like you were aware that there is a second, much rarer version that has these songs and maybe it’s nearly impossible for people to have been buzzing that loud about a song that most of them hadn’t even heard.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Daz was the LEAD PRODUCER when Doobie recorded that track they were both at Death Row together, and being the Lead Producer, like Cold187um said when he had the role, he said he knew every artist, their style, and every track that was flowing through that studio.
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We’ve discussed this before and I have no interest in going back around in circles on it. Have you ever actually heard a Death Row version of “Caught Up” produced/recorded by Daz or anyone go on record saying that one exists? If not, you are lying. Simple as that. You created a theory and are trying to pass it off as being factual.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---I have tons of Top Dogg tracks, and he was supposed to be the main act (Suge put him on Dr. Dre tracks/beats, 2Pac videos on MTV, Suge put him against Snoop with Cindafella, etc.) -- He recorded for TGFR but it didn't make the album ("Hatin U" is a great track for you to lookup),
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He was supposed to be the main act but none of his songs made the album? Let’s continue to illustrate the importance of an artist’s contributions by naming music they made that was never released.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Yes, that happened, and The Source and MTV published it and then the feds raided the building on Wilshire Blvd, and Kurupt's bodyguard was shot.
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The killing of Kurupt’s bodyguard had nothing to do with a Fed raid and they didn’t happen at the same time. Kurupt’s bodyguard was killed in a drive-by shooting at Echo Studios. It happened in October of 1999.
http://www.mtv.com/news/519143/kurupts-bodyguard-killed-two-hurt-in-studio-shooting/
Few points to be made about this article.
- The article refers to Realest as Jevon “Realistic” Jones.
- The shooting took place on October 1999. Chronic 2000 came out in April, that year. If that album was “rocking the charts” and the media was covering it, why are Kurupt and Daz the focus of this article?
- If MTV was playing them and the buzz was so huge, why did they get the name wrong and not mention any of his current music? They mention Kurupt and Daz’s most recent music?
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---This was around the time Death Row was trying to sign DMX
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Nope. DMX was locked down to Def Jam as a recording artist and Ruff Ryders as a label was signed to Interscope. Suge might have been interested in signing him but Suge was locked in prison and X already had a label. Yet another message board rumor you choose to buy into. Suge was planning to get him for Too Gangsta For Radio but that feel through. Appearing on a compilation is not the same as actually signing.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Tha Realest is one of the main artists on Chronic 2000, he's on 7 tracks!
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What’s your point? I never said he wasn’t. I said he wasn’t on Dsyfunktional Family soundtrack and Top Dogg wasn’t on Too Gangsta For Radio.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Realest recorded tracks with Daz where Daz talks about "Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realest comin way too RAW, you ain't known? Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realestt...WE just way too Real -- We right here -- You want some of this? Dat Nigga Daz & Tha Realest!! Beeeyatch!"
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And there are several videos/songs/interviews where Tupac is shouting out Dre and Snoop like they are all one big happy family and then come to find out, at the time, most of these were filmed, they didn’t even like each other. Music business is image. Suge wanted to portray his label as being like a family.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Daz helped Realest with his porn video "Because of U Girl" (you prob saw it on Death Row Uncut with all the whores in the video)
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Other way around. “Because Of You Girl” is a Dogg Pound song FEATURING Tha Realest.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 14, 2017, 12:04:08 AM ---Every time I read your posts, it's starting to sound like I'm watching 'Fake News CNN'!
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And every time, I read your responses, it’s like listening to Donald Trump, making outlandish comments and crying about “FAKE NEWS” when you get called on your bullshit.
I list facts. Articles. Links. Dates of releases. You list wacked-out fan theories about "They recorded this song together so they were obviously best friends" and randomly talking about songs you like and unreleased music you think I should listen to.
--- Quote from: love33 on April 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM ---Your diss to Doobie & Tha Realest: they were on the Death Row Records together, arguably the greatest most well known Gangsta Rap label of all time -- they were on the MTV commercial for Chronic 2000
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Realest and Doobie were on the Chronic 2000 commercial? Where?
Uh oh.... FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWS!
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