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Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2017, 12:01:03 PMWith Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.There are 2 phases to Oscar's career, ducking people and getting all the wins possible and building your name, then fighting all the best fighters and making all the money possible. Oscar DID beat Felix, don't be lied to, but the others, yeah, they fucked him up. Mosley's fight at Staples, I remember that like it's yesterday. Once Oscar got his name out there, he'd fight a rabbit pitbull if the payday was right, as obvious by fight B Hop. He cashed in on his name, got his ass whooped but still sold a lot of PPV's. But was about that money. After all, what good is your name if you don't cash in.
With Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.
Just had the best heavyweight fight since the 90's last week. Joshua/Klitschko was unreal. Joshua 19-0 with 19 KO's. Leave the 90's where they were there is great boxing on the rise.This weekend Chavez/Canelo. My nigga Errol Spence Jr. fighting Kell Brook in London soon. May 20th, I'll be at the Garden near ringside for Crawford/Diaz. Getting a Ward/Kovalev rematch. Hopefully Canelo/GGG by December. Best year in boxing in years. Let's appreciate the now, my G's.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 03, 2017, 05:12:24 PMJust had the best heavyweight fight since the 90's last week. Joshua/Klitschko was unreal. Joshua 19-0 with 19 KO's. Leave the 90's where they were there is great boxing on the rise.This weekend Chavez/Canelo. My nigga Errol Spence Jr. fighting Kell Brook in London soon. May 20th, I'll be at the Garden near ringside for Crawford/Diaz. Getting a Ward/Kovalev rematch. Hopefully Canelo/GGG by December. Best year in boxing in years. Let's appreciate the now, my G's.Who do you have winning? Canelo's better but Chavez is a BIG boy, and I bet he wants this one more than a lot of his other fights.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 03, 2017, 03:15:19 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2017, 12:01:03 PMWith Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.There are 2 phases to Oscar's career, ducking people and getting all the wins possible and building your name, then fighting all the best fighters and making all the money possible. Oscar DID beat Felix, don't be lied to, but the others, yeah, they fucked him up. Mosley's fight at Staples, I remember that like it's yesterday. Once Oscar got his name out there, he'd fight a rabbit pitbull if the payday was right, as obvious by fight B Hop. He cashed in on his name, got his ass whooped but still sold a lot of PPV's. But was about that money. After all, what good is your name if you don't cash in.how did u feel about him bein a dragqueen on the low
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 03, 2017, 03:15:19 PMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2017, 12:01:03 PMWith Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.There are 2 phases to Oscar's career, ducking people and getting all the wins possible and building your name, then fighting all the best fighters and making all the money possible. Oscar DID beat Felix, don't be lied to, but the others, yeah, they fucked him up. Mosley's fight at Staples, I remember that like it's yesterday. Once Oscar got his name out there, he'd fight a rabbit pitbull if the payday was right, as obvious by fight B Hop. He cashed in on his name, got his ass whooped but still sold a lot of PPV's. But was about that money. After all, what good is your name if you don't cash in.Yeah but it's hard to call the (official) loss to Trinidad a robbery when he even admitted he let off the gas. Should've closed out strong.I don't mind him cashing in on his name... it justifies the fights but not the losses.
Yeah, the GGG fight wouldn't do anything to improve that, and the potential Mayweather/McGregor will be a huge joke.
But would you agree that it would be more entertaining than Floyd and Conor?