It's May 11, 2024, 04:50:58 AM
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we can go back to the 80s and see rick rubin wasn’t really making beats and being credited as producersame wit puffy, kanye and many othersin comparison, dre not only makes beats on top of producing the beats of others, more importantly he conceptualizes tracks from inception to completion, and his vision is what guides the entire process. the way a dre song is structured, layered, recorded, mixed etc. is pretty much 100% dependent on him. he is extremely particular with every last sound that makes the track, from instrumentation, to drums, to vocals. basically, the ultimate producer.
We can go back to the seventies and see the guy who made the beat being considered the producer. I stopped reading when you mentioned Dre. My post literally had nothing to do with Dre and everything to do with what I quoted.
in the 70s there weren’t others overseeing, composing, arranging tracks. so your point is moot. keep reading now.
I mean if he's involved in the overall production of the song, why wouldn't he be credited as a CO producer? As particular as he is with vocals i'm sure a lot of rerecording would happen with him. Even if he didn't touch the beat(which i doubt, he puts his touch on everything) and just focused on the vocals, he would deserve producer credit. Snoop said it best many years ago... Its called a Producer, not beat brought in by. You wouldn't discredit a Director for a movie because they didn't control the camera (visuals being the equivalent of a beat in music), thats a cinematographer. I swear this is the only genre of music where Producer is viewed as being someone who makes all the music, makes it hard to understand why you and others get worked up over producer credit. All those others that worked with him sound different without him. All those songs without Dre being involved sound totally different. The only protégé i would say is on the same level as him is Mike Elizondo (he learned how to make hits from DRE) every interview he has done, he has credited Dre for his success and he doesn't even do Hip Hop anymore. His music is as clean as Dre's and he never complained about creditYoure an idiot BTW
Elizondo is the man! i've looked into his productions pretty thoroughly and enjoy the stuff he's done though it's much more in the mainstream sort of territory. deffo learnt from Dre but his drum programming, bass & the crispness of his own records is way up there. certainly more enjoyable musically than what Dre has done since he left, all his records have that groove. here's another with the Eminem vibe, that off-beat stumbling sort of drum pattern is pretty recognisable no?
This project with Snoop is gaining some serious momentum
The Snoop + Dre project is interesting, but still very much seems like a work in progress. Whatever happened to the solo “Detox-esque” Dre album that was purportedly on the verge of release ~8 months ago?