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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #600 on: December 12, 2022, 07:54:28 PM »
Solid album, it’s above par what they would have put out on solo so far, I did enjoy “bodr” and Cubes last few Lps since he went independent.
As a E-40 fan from day 1 it’s hard to dissect a lot of the material cuz of the length of them. But he always has slappers… but this a dope ass album to ride to.

I put my speakers 🔊 on blast this weekend and it felt good to ride around to work and days off to the bar and chargers game this weekend to This shit.


I had a backpack and headphones when their best material was getting bought by me. It’s been 20 years since tha last meal and 30 for death certificate or more.

Too $hort was the first hip hop album I owned, Life is Too Short. First CD was Gettin It. Followed by Bow Down cds were expensive back In the day.


I’m riding in a 2022 Cadillac that I own now, and bumping the same artist I did as a kid has. Feeling of damn they still did it and got it.

It ain’t what they used to be at all, but shit neither am I.
 
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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #601 on: December 13, 2022, 03:35:15 AM »
Motto was taking the lead as my favourite from the album for a bit and then Have a nice day took over but Ghetto Gutter is coming from behind to take the top spot right now.

This album is just good to ride to in the car and for gym session.

Glad these guys put this together and hopefully we get another one from them
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« Reply #602 on: December 13, 2022, 10:48:51 PM »
Motto was taking the lead as my favourite from the album for a bit and then Have a nice day took over but Ghetto Gutter is coming from behind to take the top spot right now.

This album is just good to ride to in the car and for gym session.

Glad these guys put this together and hopefully we get another one from them

They have it done already. Dr. Dre is supposed to be featured on it.
 

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #603 on: December 13, 2022, 11:45:52 PM »
all the soopafly joints are bangin

lol @ jellyroll usin the same opening as “on the blvd”

that’s my guy

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #604 on: December 14, 2022, 03:19:26 AM »
all the soopafly joints are bangin

lol @ jellyroll usin the same opening as “on the blvd”

that’s my guy

Straight away without checking the credits I was thinking that is definetly the Jellyroll production. 2000s era Jellyroll style made me smile.
 

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #605 on: December 14, 2022, 05:16:59 AM »
RIP Nate Dogg
RIP Nipsey Hussle
RIP Bad Azz
 

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #606 on: December 14, 2022, 06:14:39 AM »
why snoop aint promote this?
https://twitter.com/dggfthr

HELP

I'm an ol' school collecta from the 90's SO F.CK DIGITAL, RELEASE A CD!

RIP GANXSTA RIDD
RIP GODFATHER
RIP MONSTA O
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RIP BAD AZZ
 

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« Reply #607 on: December 14, 2022, 06:23:12 AM »
They have it done already. Dr. Dre is supposed to be featured on it.

Looking forward to it
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« Reply #608 on: December 14, 2022, 08:10:05 AM »
It’s dope but already getting tired of this album. Not much replay value
 

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« Reply #609 on: December 14, 2022, 08:22:59 AM »
It’s dope but already getting tired of this album. Not much replay value


way more replay value than the last nas album

but that’s if you out havin a good time, vibin wit folks, movin

not guna hit the same if u just alone smokin a blunt in your car parked outside the house while the wife and kids inside watchin disney plus



for instance..activated, i got pull, do my best is all classic west coast shit .. tracks like those can never get old

 
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« Reply #610 on: December 14, 2022, 09:37:20 AM »
New interview with LA Times -

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Catching up with hip-hop supergroup Mount Westmore: ‘It felt like being a kid again’



Hip-hop pioneers Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, E-40 and Too Short have nothing left to prove.

In Los Angeles, Ice Cube sparked the rise of gangsta rap as part of N.W.A in the late ‘80s, before Snoop Dogg broke out of Long Beach to introduce G-Funk to the masses through his landmark 1993 album “Doggystyle.”

With colorful lingo and slick-talking raps, E-40 and Too Short have steered the sound of the Bay Area since first emerging in the 1980s.

And in the past decades, these four have taken their sound around the globe through countless tours and millennium-defying hits. Their accomplishments spill outside of music, too, whether it’s Ice Cube’s Big3 basketball league prolonging the careers of NBA stars, Snoop Dogg’s ubiquitous presence in Hollywood through movies and brand deals or E-40’s budding spirits empire.

But when the world ground to a halt in 2020 amid the coronavirus pandemic, they joined forces to create Mount Westmore, a bona fide super-group connecting the Bay to L.A. On their debut album, titled “Snoop, 40, Cube and Short,” they’re quick to remind you of their founding father status, advising you to follow their footsteps on “Lace You Up” before flipping culture vultures the bird on “Have a Nice Day.”

It’s easy to tell how much fun the foursome, all of whom are now in their 50s, had making the album, which was released this summer as an NFT before arriving on all platforms on Dec. 9. But when they gather on Zoom shortly after Thanksgiving, they’re just as excited to talk about their families as their music.

“Congratulations, cuh,” Snoop Dogg told Ice Cube, who logged on from Mexico where he and his wife vacationed for their 30th anniversary. “Thirty-year vet, walking underwater without getting wet,” said Snoop. “I’m trying to get to that mountaintop right now ... I’m at 27 years. But my baby girl [Cori Broadus] just got proposed to on Thanksgiving. I cried, cuh. On some real s—, like a grown-ass man. I cried. That s— was beautiful.”

How did the idea for Mount Westmore come about?
Ice Cube: I think everybody saw an opportunity to do something bigger than just us. Something fun. Hip-hop can be so serious ... but ain’t nobody having more fun than us. We all love each other, it’s like being in a group with your cousins.

Snoop Dogg: If I’m the baby of the bunch, these are my OGs. These are the guys that I looked up to before I had a chance to do it. And once I got in the industry, we became brothers.

What was everybody’s role in the project?
Too Short: We didn’t utilize personal assistants, managers or label execs. Nobody got involved. We A&R’ed this ourselves.

Snoop Dogg: You was the A&R, Short. N— you lying. [Laughs]

Ice Cube: Everybody used their specialties, from visuals to lingo to beats to production. Even stage production. Everybody was able to pass the baton, like “this your area, we’re gonna rely on you.” This wouldn’t have come together without Too Short’s diligence. He really kept the project together.

Too Short: If it wasn’t agreed on by all four of us, it ain’t happening.

You made this album at the height of COVID. Were you in the studio together, or was it all created through Zoom?
Ice Cube: It was mostly us Zooming each other. We realized we could get a lot done and not be on the 405 for an hour every day. It was fun to have this to focus on. 2020 was f— up.

Snoop Dogg: It felt like being a kid again, being able to be with your friends and not have to go in when the street lights come on. We can have a friendly argument and then talk about football, basketball, whatever. We want to show the youngsters how to grow into Ice Cube, Too Short, 40, Snoop Dogg. How you can grow into your 50s and still be relevant.


You guys are all family men by now. How does that change your approach to music?
Too Short: I’m what you call a granddaddy-daddy. My daughter will be 4 in a couple weeks. I’m late to the party, but I’m here.

E-40: My son, Issue, recorded all my parts for Mount Westmore right here in my studio. I paid him just like I paid any other engineer so he could feel good about it.

Ice Cube: I had my kids my whole career. My youngest is 22. My hardest records were done when they were the youngest. So the records I do now, I’m trying to teach the youth about what they should be doing. Not just what they’re seeing already.

Too Short: During this project, at some point, each one of y'all’s sons chimed in and was like “Pops, that ain’t it, man.” We got the feedback from Cube’s son, Snoop’s son and 40’s son, like “that’s it.” “Or that ain’t it.”

Ice Cube: They really told us what they want from OGs like us.

What songs did they gravitate to?
Snoop Dogg: “Have A Nice Day (F— You).” My son loves that record right there.

E-40: Because your son has an old soul. My sons do too, they love that song.

Ice Cube: My son likes “Activated,” “Free Game.” He was tripping off “Tribal.” It’s fun asking people their favorite songs, because everybody likes something different. But what I really liked about working with Short and 40 was that they were pulling out beats that were more Bay friendly. Northern California stuff. I might not have rhymed on a beat like “Free Game” if it wasn’t for them.


Each of you proudly takes up the OG torch on this album. When you were coming up in music, how much advice did you take from the people before you?
E-40: We had OGs, but not OGs as far as the music. [Snoop and Cube] did, they had a legend as their mentor. They had Dre.

Ice Cube: I learned a lot from not only Dre, but Lonzo [Williams] from World Class Wreckin’ Cru. He used to throw all the parties. But I’d see people on their own grind like Mixmaster Spade, DJ Pooh, King Tee, who had their own flavor. But as far as the OGs in my hood, when I got into hip-hop, they became less important. They didn’t know how to get you to the promised land when it came to hip-hop, because it was so new.

At what point in your career did you want to take up that mentorship role?
Too Short: I just realized I was an OG like two weeks ago. I thought I was still a youngster. [Laughs]

E-40: You’re an old-ass youngster, Short, that’s what we all are.

Ice Cube: For me, it was getting with Chuck D, Ice-T, the real political motherf— in the game, who were spitting it and getting venom spit back at them. I knew at a certain point that I wanted to do street knowledge. Not just talking about gangsta s—. I decided to be that type of artist going into “Amerikkka’s Most Wanted.”

Too Short: You said Ice-T’s name. I gotta say on the West Coast, I remember back in the ‘90s he used to keep his phone line open if you needed to call and get some OG game from somebody who walked the path before you. He’d always sit down and powwow with young rappers, and give his perspective.

Ice Cube: He gave me the best piece of advice I ever got in the game. He told me to know why you wrote each line, and be able to intelligently break down each rhyme. So if they ever question you on any of your lines, you’ll be able to put them in their place. You gotta be on point when you’re doing controversial lyrics.

Snoop Dogg: That was great advice. When I was getting off into Hollywood, movies were coming left and right. I was taking every role they gave me. I remember Ice-T was like “Snoop, less is more. Sometimes you gotta say no to these movies.” I was in B-level, C-level movies, but when I started saying no, I got better opportunities.

You’re four of the biggest artists from Los Angeles and the Bay Area. What’s been your relationship with each other’s cities?
Ice Cube: We keep each other on point. We [in L.A.] can be caught in our own flavor and style, and then we see some s— from the Bay, where the energy is on a whole other level, and then we like, “we gotta pick it up a little bit, we’re too laid back.” I’m pretty sure the Bay looks at L.A. like we gotta smooth it out a little bit.

Snoop Dogg: When me, Warren G and Nate Dogg were selling dope, our favorite group was 415. So naturally, we created 213. That’s the California connection.

Too Short: It’s like when Dr. Dre dropped “The Chronic.” Up in the Bay, we went back to the drawing board, like, “we gotta switch some things up here.”

What did it mean for you all to see Snoop onstage at the Super Bowl in February?
Too Short: Coolest s— ever.

Ice Cube: It was amazing to see, from where the music started, to being on top of the world. He let the world know. From a producer like Dr. Dre, artists like Snoop, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, 50 Cent. I don’t know how they’re gonna match that.

Snoop Dogg: I got to be in N.W.A one time with “Chin Check,” and I got to do the Super Bowl. Two dreams came true. When I’m dead, I’m good.



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Snoop Cube 40 $hort review | Sluggish and outdated work from Mount Westmore

★☆☆☆☆

The foursome of hip-hop icons fail to rekindle the magic of their heydays in an album that bores. Here is our review of Mount Westmore’s latest outing.

“Four of the west coast’s best and most recognisable hip-hop artists collaborate to release a project that pushes the boundaries of the sound whilst staying true to their signature styles” would have been the headline thirty years ago. Unfortunately for Mount Westmore (Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, E-40 and Too $hort), the year is 2022.

Rap has evolved past basic gangster talk and funky dance beats, and whilst Snoop Cube 40 $hort is an attempted callback to hip-hop’s golden era, the foursome fails to provide substance or any originality that makes this album worth listening to so late on in their careers.

The album is lazy, seen first and foremost through the hooks, which are too often repetitive. On the likes of ‘Too Big’ or ‘Free Game’, the choruses are literally just the title over and over again, which is disappointing as the song ‘Big Subwoofer’ demonstrates that the group has the capabilities of putting together a well-written, catchy hook.

The lyricism is lazy throughout; bars such as “more bass than baseball” make me question whether these rappers could release multi-platinum genre-defining classics in the 80s and 90s.

Moreover, several songs feature instrumentals that simultaneously sound like something Iggy Azalea might use when creating a radio hit and an attempt to create an old-school G-Funk callback. The result is several beats which don’t fit the voices, themes or style of the rappers.

Snoop Dogg has for too long now tried to replicate the style that gave him monumental success in his early career whilst failing to realise that it was both the novelty of his voice and delivery and the mainstream appeal of laid-back, funky west coast beats that were substantial factors in his rise to stardom.

He sounds dated and, frankly, out of his depth on Snoop Cube 40 $hort. He’s too old and successful to be delivering bars like “you want bullshit, imma let the metal blast,” and too often, his bars are too similar to what we’ve been hearing throughout his now-thirty-year career.

Ice Cube faces the same conundrum. Now a successful actor, it’s been decades since Cube was parading the streets of L.A. as a pimp and gangster; it becomes tiresome to still hear about bouncing titties and toting guns from someone who should be reminiscing. His flow throughout the album is monotonous, as is his rhyme scheme, and he rarely veers away from basic two-syllable rhymes.

Occasionally the forces on the album do combine for some good. ‘Motto’ features Snoop’s best verse on the album, amongst consistently good performances from all members and an unusually well-written chorus behind a catchy instrumental. Similarly, ‘Have A Nice Day’ features a welcome featured chorus from Dem Jointz and Jenn Em and another highlight from Snoop Dogg.

However, on this track, much like the rest of the album, it is E-40 who delivers the best and most enjoyable verses. A tried and tested veteran of the rap game who has inspired everyone from Kendrick Lamar to Jay-Z, his unique off-beat flows and ability to switch up his delivery are welcome additions to a project which is often boring to listen to.

From the opening track ‘California,’ it is evident the difference between E-40 and his colleagues. Whilst Cube, Snoop and $hort rely on the imagery of a gangster lifestyle and references to cultural attractions, 40 is much more introspective about how he has seen the state change through the stages of his career.

Yet despite this, whilst E-40 is the most consistent of the four, a few good verses do not make up for bars such as “If you meet all four, you might poop (shit)”, by Too $hort, or just the consistent lacklustre performances from the hip-hop veterans throughout the project. In 65 minutes of runtime, nothing of much substance is said, and the album begins to feel like a slog.

Originally released as an NFT in June this year with a much shorter tracklist, the foursome would have been much better off releasing this version on digital platforms, giving their die-hard fans a blast from the past without oversaturating. The result of this effort, however, is an outdated, lazy project that reflects where most of the curators are in their rapping careers.





In regard to the review above a commenter hit-back with -

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Maybe it's outdated to the reviewer but for us as fans of the supergroup this shit slap,I don't think they made it for everyone,I think they made it for the demographic it's intended for.

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Mount Westmore: Snoop, Cube, 40, $hort review – harmless nostalgia and charmless bluster


The west coast rap supergroup’s album works reasonably well at times, but there are more misses than hits

Last October, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, E-40 and Too $hort released not-bad bop Big Subwoofer, its camper-than-panto video showing the west coast rap supergroup Mount Westmore flying into space to… stage an am-dram Avatar sequel in a strip club? It was never quite clear. Distressingly, they tried to parlay the limited artistic gains of that debut single into a summer album, Bad MFs, which appeared “on the blockchain” (honestly, no idea) and is proffered here with a worse name and tracklisting. Its lush, soul-stroked title track is gone, while the drab, misanthropic Have a Nice Day (Fuck You) remains.

Their four quite different flows still work reasonably well together, from $hort’s lubricious bars to Cube’s truculent pugilism, over comfort-zone beats of electro, P-funk and other familiar 1980s grooves. Yet harmless nostalgia predictably succumbs to charmless bluster. Up & Down is the nadir, wherein our four elderly chums become obsessed with watching a “thicc” woman (wife, mother, daughter or stripper, it’s again unclear) struggling to put on jeans because of the size of her thighs. It’s supposed to be amusing, but has all the wild comedy of listening to your dad trying to finish a porno.

2/5 score

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Four pillars of West Coast Hip-Hop join forces, as Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, E-40 and Too $hort deliver Snoop, Cube, 40, $hort, their debut as the supergroup Mount Westmore. All hailing from The Golden State, the quartet of legends immediately represent for their territory on the album opener “California.” Produced by Rick Rock, the track finds the group setting the stage, with Snoop acknowledging their strength in numbers. “I hooked up with more hoggs/Cube, 40 and Short Dawg/Representin’ Cali, we back on it boy,” he raps atop the bouncy backdrop.


Paying homage to their respective locales, all parties put forth strong performances, kicking off the proceedings on a high note. The previously released singles “Big Subwoofer” and “Too Big” featuring P-Lo keeps the vibes afloat, while standouts like the Fredwreck and Dem Jointz-produced “Have A Nice Day,” and the Soopafly scored “Do My Best,” find the crew hitting on all cylinders. The album hits a slight lull during its middle portion due to a brief string of offerings that border on underwhelming, but finishes strong, as the cuts “Lace You Up,” and “How Many” prove to be more than serviceable. With over a century worth of skin in the game combined, Snoop, Cube, 40 and $hort linking for an album is a monumental occasion in itself. But the music actually being good makes the listen that more enjoyable

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #611 on: December 14, 2022, 01:47:17 PM »
Respect to the real OG Ice-T. these 4 legends gave Ice-t his flowers.
 

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #612 on: December 14, 2022, 05:35:16 PM »

way more replay value than the last nas album

but that’s if you out havin a good time, vibin wit folks, movin

not guna hit the same if u just alone smokin a blunt in your car parked outside the house while the wife and kids inside watchin disney plus



for instance..activated, i got pull, do my best is all classic west coast shit .. tracks like those can never get old

I can smoke a blunt in the car to e40s early albums and vibe with it anytime. And I’m saying this one I can too but I tried playing it again in the car yesterday and got bored after a few songs and put on E40 Federal album
 

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Re: MOUNT WESTMORE - BAD MFS/SNOOP CUBE 40 SHORT (Official Discussion)
« Reply #613 on: December 14, 2022, 05:55:17 PM »
I can smoke a blunt in the car to e40s early albums and vibe with it anytime. And I’m saying this one I can too but I tried playing it again in the car yesterday and got bored after a few songs and put on E40 Federal album


yea right u put on some pigeon john u ain’t gota lie to kick it

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« Reply #614 on: December 14, 2022, 06:41:00 PM »

yea right u put on some pigeon john u ain’t gota lie to kick it

I’ll admit I was bumpin some pigeon John back in 2005-06. But not really recently