SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Jay Z once said "Niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums"

[Sccit]

Jay Z once said "Niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums"

we don’t want old shit, we just want new shit that’s good

[Sccit]

Where did Dre or Snoop say this album is the sequel to Doggystyle? If it's a sequel, it would be called Doggystyle 2 or Doggystyle Part 2.

It's 2024, not 1994 or 2004. The music industry has changed. The internet is as big as ever, MTV doesn't exist like it did back then. A video, promo, single, etc, it doesn't matter anymore.

This album isn't selling gold, platinum, or multi-platinum. None of these "singles" are going to be #1 or top the Billboard charts. It's unrealistic and delusional reading all of this shit since these songs came out.

"Missionary" is a funny pun for Doggystyle, it's just named that because it's the first Dr. Dre-produced album since 1993, has nothing to do with Doggystyle. Dre is damn near 60 in a few months, Snoop Dogg is the most recognizable face in the world and he is 54 years old. Why would anyone think this was going to be G-funk or west coast-sounding?

I would say temper expectations. Three out of 15 tracks,  many people on this forum are disappointed. We have no idea how this album will sound, most albums have songs like this, then the rest is different.

Last thing: Dubcnn and Reddit are vocal minorities, so all of this "we didn't want this" is silly to me. You don't speak for the majority. I bet anything that this album is going to get rave reviews when it's actually out.

Stop thinking this is 1994 or even 2004, the music business is pretty much dead, this isn't moving units, or changing the culture. Times have changed, we're in the streaming era. If this does 250,000 that's considered an achievement. Look at other artists that are so-called big, besides Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Drake, Taylor Swift, Travis Scott, Eminem, Beyonce, Adele, and some others, everyone is pretty much selling low 100,000 (being generous). Music doesn't sell anymore, it is ridiculous to see all of the "this flopped" or "it's flopping."

Do you know how much Ice Cube sold with Man Down in his first week? 20,000. This is Ice Cube, a movie star now, not a rapper in his prime. My only problem with the album is it's too damn short, 43 minutes sucks for a full-length album for Snoop Dogg, where most of his albums are always an hour long or more.

TLDR; It's not 1994 or 2004 anymore. The music industry is pretty much on life support. This album isn't going to be G-funk or 2001. This album isn't selling like Death Row in its peak. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg are old, they're not rapping about gangbanging or fucking hoes. Get that out of your head and be more open-minded.

nothing u said has anything to do wit what the QUALITY of the music should sound like

and no its not dre’s first produced album since 93 LOL

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

we don’t want old shit, we just want new shit that’s good

You keep comparing to Compton though.

Dr.Dre clearly said that he doesn't listen to his old shit. Why do we expect for him to be inspired by it?

And again that "We want" portion is about a very small pourcentage of the fan base.

[Sccit]

You keep comparing to Compton though.

Dr.Dre clearly said that he doesn't listen to his old shit. Why do we expect for him to be inspired by it?

And again that "We want" portion is about a very small pourcentage of the fan base.

[Az]

Regardless of what 'us' hardcore fans want and our disappointment with the album direction, (so far) the numbers don't lie. The songs ain't connecting with the mainstream. 1.5 mil YouTube views on Gorgeous weeks later after all the album hype tells you all you need to know.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

Regardless of what 'us' hardcore fans want and our disappointment with the album direction, (so far) the numbers don't lie. The songs ain't connecting with the mainstream. 1.5 mil YouTube views on Gorgeous weeks later after all the album hype tells you all you need to know.

This has been Snoops case since the release of Doggumentary. Snoops name won't bring numbers musically unless it's a feature with someone else.

[Hittman2001]

additional thoughts...these songs feel like Snoop features not the main artist.   its like he's just singing along with the others

[Jay_J]

Name 3 tracks that released this year that is dope to you?

You know it’s subjective but curious where you set the bar

kanye west & ty dolla sign - burn
kanye & ty dolla sign - do it
kanye & ty dolla sign - fuk sumn
saba & no-id - i'm not impressed
mr. criminal & b-real - dreams come true
eminem - habits
eminem - houdini
kendrick - not like us
kendrick - whole gnx
dogg pound - grown up
rakim - now is the time
ice cube - break the mirror
xzibit - play this at my funeral
zeefan & timbaland - if it wasn't up to me
snoop & warren g - cali 2 canada
mustard - one of them ones

[DJ-AGE™]

"Delirium of experimentation" is a perfect descriptor. He's all over the place. Nothing flows together. There's no unifying sound or vision thus far. I feel like after the divorce and the middling reception to Compton, Dre has put himself under a lot of pressure to release some massive, game changing album, thus experimenting with other sounds and genres. But, frankly, his talents are in hip hop. Not other genres. Why release a 3 star bland mixed genre album for the sake of experimenting, when you could release a 5 star classic hip hop album by doing what you excel at?

True! Like when he got into movie scoring on Bad Boys I recall he said in interviews he was really wanting to get into that movie industry but clearly wasn’t able to do it… his skills are proven in hip hop & we all here cause of his past on a west coast forum

[Jay_J]

Not necessarily, I Wanna Thank Me was a good record.

i agree. its a good album. one of snoop's best.

[DJ-AGE™]

kanye west & ty dolla sign - burn
kanye & ty dolla sign - do it
kanye & ty dolla sign - fuk sumn
saba & no-id - i'm not impressed
mr. criminal & b-real - dreams come true
eminem - habits
eminem - houdini
kendrick - not like us
kendrick - whole gnx
dogg pound - grown up
rakim - now is the time
ice cube - break the mirror
xzibit - play this at my funeral
zeefan & timbaland - if it wasn't up to me
snoop & warren g - cali 2 canada
mustard - one of them ones

I would pick maybe 4 off your list!

[Jay_J]

I would pick maybe 4 off your list!

let me hear yours please.

[Lucifuge]

Early/Mid 90's snoop was on top

Snoop was always a personality with me. Never much of a mc. Kurupt is an mc mi 90s. He was top 5 mc at that time. Pqc bigie, nas, prodigy, kurupt. Snoop was always a character.

[DJ-AGE™]

let me hear yours please.

Put it this way my heavy rotation right now is GNX & Man Down but was also Em’s last & Chupacabra.

For me GNX is so far the best album of 2024

Haven’t felt this way about Dot since 2011/2012 before GKMC

You lost me with Yeezy