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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3990 on: December 29, 2024, 11:48:53 AM »
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3991 on: December 29, 2024, 01:02:51 PM »
Quik, doesn't seem to be out of touch musically, he would definitely align with Snoop and put together a nice project, just like Pharrell did with BUSH, I could even mention Terrace  Martin, great chemistry with Snoop
Quik's best shit is the slightly uptempo more club type beats (like Down Down Down) Snoop's style fits more slower, funky beats (What's My Name, Gin and Juice). Someone like Suga Free excelled with Quik because his flow allowed Suga Free to shine over that tempo and bounce that Quik is known for. Snoop and Quik are both talented and they could definitely sit down and come up with some dope shit if they did an album, but to me it would sound forced.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3992 on: December 29, 2024, 01:20:25 PM »
Quik's best shit is the slightly uptempo more club type beats (like Down Down Down) Snoop's style fits more slower, funky beats (What's My Name, Gin and Juice). Someone like Suga Free excelled with Quik because his flow allowed Suga Free to shine over that tempo and bounce that Quik is known for. Snoop and Quik are both talented and they could definitely sit down and come up with some dope shit if they did an album, but to me it would sound forced.

You can't keep quoting Whays My Name or Gin and Juice...also Press Play is a great Quik and Snoop collab.

Also Snoops freestyle over Suga Free's Angry Enough, is great too
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3993 on: December 29, 2024, 02:42:40 PM »
You can't keep quoting Whays My Name or Gin and Juice...also Press Play is a great Quik and Snoop collab.

Also Snoops freestyle over Suga Free's Angry Enough, is great too


see .. people can say or quote whatever the hell they feel ….. that’s why it’s a free forum ….. like i told those other weirdos n the cats that was ridin wit them earlier- there ain’t no restrictions over here. if u have an opinion feel free to share. even when the little bitches whine because it doesn’t align wit their thoughts… pay that hoe shit no mind.. cats gota learn how to build on conversations wit positivity despit a difference of opinion …. and oh yea, go buy hibernation shivers mufucka!


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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3994 on: December 29, 2024, 02:51:05 PM »

see .. people can say or quote whatever the hell they feel ….. that’s why it’s a free forum ….. like i told those other weirdos n the cats that was ridin wit them earlier- there ain’t no restrictions over here. if u have an opinion feel free to share. even when the little bitches whine because it doesn’t align wit their thoughts… pay that hoe shit no mind.. cats gota learn how to build on conversations wit positivity despit a difference of opinion …. and oh yea, go buy hibernation shivers mufucka!


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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3995 on: December 29, 2024, 05:14:43 PM »
Now that I've given the album some time to marinate I have to say I'm really happy with it.  I tried hard not to over-analyze anything.  But here's some thoughts I've had:

- Back in the mid 2000s everyone wanted 'grown up' beats with live instrumentation (Like Busta Rhymes "Been Through The Storm").  Now Dre is using a lot of live instruments on this but for some reason it's not hitting like I thought it would.  I think the music is so polished and clean sounding that it's lacking the 'grit'.  I'd like to hear it on vinyl to see if that makes a difference. 

- I don't like the kids on "Hard Knocks"

- I'm not really feelin "Skyscrapers".  That sample just makes me hear Jay Z "1-900-Hustler".  I think Bink did it better.

- "Now or Never" beat is amazing to me.  Love this song.  I'm a big BJ The Chicago Kid fan.  Glad to see him involved. 

- I wish there were some skits.  Dre and Snoop always had great skits. 

- I think I like this album a lot more than most people on here.  It's cool to see who likes what, and how everyone's musical taste is different.  Overall I'm really happy to have this album.  I wasn't expecting a sequel to Doggystyle, I was just expecting a great album and I got one. 
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3996 on: December 29, 2024, 05:54:17 PM »
Disregard if posted. Outta Da Blue sample - apparently the work of some mentally disadvantaged people



https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/dec/29/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-sample-song-by-london-learning-disabilities-charity
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3997 on: December 29, 2024, 06:36:15 PM »
Disregard if posted. Outta Da Blue sample - apparently the work of some mentally disadvantaged people



https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/dec/29/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-sample-song-by-london-learning-disabilities-charity

yea … was revealed before album dropped

interesting choice of music to sample
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3998 on: December 30, 2024, 12:16:37 AM »
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Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre - Missionary



Missionary brings Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre back together for an album that taps into their iconic chemistry while offering a more modernized sound. Snoop sounds reinvigorated, delivering rhymes with a presence and energy that’s been missing from some of his recent projects. Dre’s production, as always, is polished and dynamic, leaning into G-funk’s roots on tracks like “Hard Knocks” and “Outta Da Blue.” There’s an undeniable nostalgia baked into Missionary, with callbacks to Doggystyle and The Chronic, but it’s clear this isn’t an attempt to relive the past entirely. Instead, the duo updates their formula with varied musical influences, some of which work better than others.

Tracks like “Gunz ‘n Smoke,” featuring 50 Cent and Eminem, channel the group spirit of early 2000s posse cuts, but the overcrowded guest list can sometimes dilute the album’s cohesion. Songs like “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” with its Tom Petty interpolation and a misfit Jelly Roll appearance, feel out of place and overly polished. Similarly, Sting’s verse on “Another Part of Me” adds novelty but little substance.

Despite its flaws, Missionary offers flashes of the Snoop-and-Dre magic that shaped the West Coast sound. When it sticks closer to its G-funk foundations, it’s an enjoyable listen. The album occasionally overreaches with genre experiments and overuses its features, but Snoop’s refreshed delivery and Dre’s refined beats make this a satisfying, if imperfect, return for the legendary duo.

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Snoop Dogg :: Missionary



Calvin Broadus is an icon. A legend. A GOAT if you will. “Last time I checked, I was the plug to yo’ plug, I’m the fucking connect” quips Snoop Dogg on “Gorgeous” from his latest album “Missionary.” Coming from your average rap artist this might seem conceited but for Snoop it’s just the truth. He was born in 1971, started rapping professional right after he was old enough to vote, and three decades later he’s still in the game. I’d call that impressive but it’s just the tip of his iceberg. He’s become an actor, a paid spokesperson, and an Olympic ambassador for the U.S. This trajectory was at best unlikely. He had to beat a first degree murder charge in the 1990’s just as his star was rising and he was signed to a record label whose CEO was a violent predicate felon. At any point his career could have gone up in smoke like his recreational drug of choice.

In all of the unlikely moments of Snoop’s career from then to now, buying Death Row Records ranks at or near the top, but it speaks volumes about Mr. Broadus and where he’s at now. It enables him to take the most infamous chapter of his career and not only own it but shape its legacy to future generations. It also enables him to add “mogul” to his list of titles and provides a pivot point to make major moves. He’s still the star of the story even when he’s sharing the spotlight with equally iconic artists like the late Tom Petty on “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” but going forward he can use his fame and status to put on the next generation. As long as he’s not as shady as Suge this can only be a boon to the game.

In many respects “Missionary” is a power flex. It’s well earned after multiple decades to get to this point, but he definitely pulls off the kind of samples and big name cameos someone with less money or fame could not. I haven’t even mentioned that Jhené Aiko is on “Gorgeous” or Jelly Roll is on “Last Dance” yet, but find one song here where you couldn’t talk about something that would cost a lesser rapper his entire budget. It was obvious that “Thank You” would sample Sly and the Family Stone but it can’t have come cheap. “Outta Da Blue” features Dr. Dre and interpolations of “Paper Planes” and “Been Around the World.” (Side note – Dre’s voice has aged far more than Snoop’s. It’s not a bad thing, but it’s noticeable.) “Skyscrapers” features two guests in Method Man and Smitty and had two different samples to clear. This shit adds up.

If you’re mad at Mr. Broadus for having this kind of wealth and clout that’s your right — you do you. I’m too busy enjoying the riddim of songs like “Fire” featuring Cocoa Sarai. “Shit is timeless, let me present what I’m designing.” I’ve argued since I first started writing (as long ago as Snoop first started rapping) that reggae and rap go hand in hand. In fact it’s not even an argument — if Clive Campbell hadn’t emigrated from Jamaica to New York City then we wouldn’t have hip-hop today. Some things just naturally belong together, which is exactly how I feel about hearing 50 Cent and Eminem on “Gunz N Smoke.” After all Aftermath still gets the last laugh and it’s one of three imprints on this album.

Is “Missionary” the greatest Snoop Dogg album of all time? No. Is it at least as good as “BODR” though, the album that announced his purchase of Death Row? Absolutely. The curse of being in the rap game for as long as Calvin Broadus is that you wind up competing with yourself. He’s got an enormous catalogue of music at this point — mostly good, a few duds, and some genuine classics. Even his lesser albums still managed to generate memorable singles that long-time listeners have percolating in their head and can quote at a moment’s notice. He’s not necessarily the lyrical GOAT, but his verses come with a flair for their delivery few can match. In fact from reading the credits of this album it’s obvious he doesn’t write all of his own bars any more; honestly, I didn’t expect him to. He’s acting, rapping, and running multiple businesses. He could use a little help to get it all done. What he needs no help with is being Snoop — the man, the myth, the legend.


Overall Score 7.5

Music 7.5

Lyrics 7.5





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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #3999 on: December 30, 2024, 12:22:06 AM »
sometimes i imagine snoop performing "hard knocks" on tiny desk with a band and kids choir.

production was the point with the album, it gives you a live performance feeling except of songs like "thank you" and "now or never".

i think thats what dre is talking about what the next hip hop era should be.
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #4000 on: December 30, 2024, 02:22:33 AM »
Now that I've given the album some time to marinate I have to say I'm really happy with it.  I tried hard not to over-analyze anything.  But here's some thoughts I've had:

- Back in the mid 2000s everyone wanted 'grown up' beats with live instrumentation (Like Busta Rhymes "Been Through The Storm").  Now Dre is using a lot of live instruments on this but for some reason it's not hitting like I thought it would.  I think the music is so polished and clean sounding that it's lacking the 'grit'.  I'd like to hear it on vinyl to see if that makes a difference. 

- I don't like the kids on "Hard Knocks"

- I'm not really feelin "Skyscrapers".  That sample just makes me hear Jay Z "1-900-Hustler".  I think Bink did it better.

- "Now or Never" beat is amazing to me.  Love this song.  I'm a big BJ The Chicago Kid fan.  Glad to see him involved. 

- I wish there were some skits.  Dre and Snoop always had great skits. 

- I think I like this album a lot more than most people on here.  It's cool to see who likes what, and how everyone's musical taste is different.  Overall I'm really happy to have this album.  I wasn't expecting a sequel to Doggystyle, I was just expecting a great album and I got one.


  I don’t think it’s a perfect album or anything, but it’s been in constant rotation since it came out,
and I haven’t gotten tired of it.  Most of the time, the first track is the only one I skip.  I agree with you about the kids on the chorus of “Hard Knocks” and there are definitely other little things like that, here and there, but overall,
I enjoy the album quite a bit.  It’s the first Snoop album in a long time where I could just about listen to the whole thing without skipping a bunch of tracks.
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #4001 on: December 30, 2024, 07:28:32 AM »
Disregard if posted. Outta Da Blue sample - apparently the work of some mentally disadvantaged people



https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/dec/29/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-sample-song-by-london-learning-disabilities-charity

low point of the album, terrible choice of sample.
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #4002 on: December 30, 2024, 08:14:44 AM »
low point of the album, terrible choice of sample.

At the time of detox there was actually no sample to be recognized, just a sound that you would expect, next shizzle, but also the Sting remake...please
the whole Marsha Album aka remakes of beats sample etc
and when I read again Redman album is not that good...wtf mega album! and a lot better than the Snoop album, just the feat, Redman really did a great job
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)
« Reply #4003 on: December 30, 2024, 01:51:42 PM »
The headline is "Hip-hop legends surprise UK disability charity with unexpected collaboration."

Here's another link to the story behind the sample: https://rollingout.com/2024/12/30/snoop-dogg-dr-dre-charity-sample/

"Proceeds from the single will benefit the charity and the disabled artists who featured on the track, providing crucial support for their ongoing creative endeavors."

Pretty selfless thing to do if you ask me. Well done.
 
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