SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)

[Soopafly DPGC]

huh?

an aneurism can definitely affect your cognitive abilities. what are you going on about? it’s not a diss homie. it’s like rupturing your achilles in sports.. sure, u can still play- but your prime days are behind you.

the only “classless” thing here is you calling people “cunts” because they have an opinion on the music that u disagree with.

there’s a few of you on here..

 

I don't think Dre's aneurism had anything to do with this at all.  You don't think Dre could produce another Doggystyle if he wanted to?  Of course he could.  He could easily produce songs that sound like 93 again.  He has said time and time again he is not doing that kind of music anymore.  It is a conscious effort to move on and make different sounding music.  It's not my favorite, but I get it.  It's the fans' faults for being disappointed when Dre said from Day 1 this was not going to sound anything like his old music, yet people still believed somehow that it was going to sound like Doggystyle II. 

[Sccit]

I don't think Dre's aneurism had anything to do with this at all.  You don't think Dre could produce another Doggystyle if he wanted to?  Of course he could.  He could easily produce songs that sound like 93 again.  He has said time and time again he is not doing that kind of music anymore.  It is a conscious effort to move on and make different sounding music.  It's not my favorite, but I get it.  It's the fans' faults for being disappointed when Dre said from Day 1 this was not going to sound anything like his old music, yet people still believed somehow that it was going to sound like Doggystyle II.

lol

it doesn’t need to sound like his old music to be as good as his old music

this is not as good as his old music…and is no where close tbh.

is it bad music? no… but to answer your question, no, i don’t think current dre could produce something as good as doggystyle. he doesn’t have the hunger and youthful energy to make something as organically dope. he’s overthinking the production, which is why it sounds far more contrived. does the aneurism factor into this? maybe, maybe not.. but the fact remains, dre is out of his prime, and there’s no shame in that. he’s still the goat, by far.

[The Predator]

Samples credits -

    "Fore Play" contains an interpolation of "People Make the World Go Round", as written by Thom Bell and Linda Creed, as performed by the Stylistics.

    "Shangri-La" contains a sample of "Swahililand", as written and performed by Ahmad Jamal.

    "Outta da Blue" contains samples of "Watermelon Fantasy", written by Mandy Priddice, Cedrick Letshou, Tina Bruins, Jack Daley and Oliver Price, as performed by Daylight Studio; "Saturday Night" as written and performed by Schoolly D; and "Scratchin", written by Clayton Ivey and Terry Woodford, as performed by Magic Disco Machine, and interpolations from "Paper Planes", written by Maya Arulpragasam, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Topper Headon, Joe Strummer and Wesley Pentz, as performed by M.I.A.; and "All Around the World", written by Lisa Stansfield, Ian Devaney and Andy Morris, as performed by Stansfield.

    "Hard Knocks" contains a sample of "Mujer, Gracias por tu Llanto", written by Bernado Baraj, Carlos Mellino and Ricardo Lew, as performed by Alma y Vida, and an interpolation of "Another Brick in the Wall", written by Roger Waters, as performed by Pink Floyd.
   
"Last Dance with Mary Jane" contains a sample of "Mary Jane's Last Dance", written by Tom Petty and performed by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

    "Thank You" contains a sample of "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again)", written by Sylvester Stewart, as performed by Sly and the Family Stone, and an interpolation of "The Watcher", written by Andre Young and Marshall Mathers, as performed by Dr. Dre.
   
"Pressure" contains samples of "Spider and Fly", as written and performed by Luchi De Jesus; and The Champ, written by Harry Palmer, as performed by the Mohawks.

    "Another Part of Me" contains an interpolation of "Message in a Bottle", written by Gordon Sumner, as performed by the Police.
   
"Skyscrapers" contains samples of "A Donde Quiera", written by Rafi Monclova, as performed by Marco Antonio Muńiz; and "Ain't Gonna Happen", written by Aram Schefrin and Michael Zager, as performed by Ten Wheel Drive.
   
"Fire" contains a sample of "Come My Love", as written and performed by Ihsan Al-Munzer.
   
"Gunz n Smoke" contains samples of "Dead Wrong", written by Christopher Wallace, Marshall Mathers, Carl Thompson, Osten Harvey Jr., Al Green; "Who Shot Ya?", written by Wallace, Allie Wrubel, Herb Magidson, Nashiem Myrick and Sean Combs; and "Notorious Thugs", written by Wallace, Bryon McCane, Anthony Henderson, Steven Howse, Combs and Steven Jordan, all as performed by the Notorious B.I.G.

"Say You Love Me", as written and performed by D. J. Rogers.
   
"Sticcy Situation" contains a sample of "Don't Get Caught", written by Isaac Hayes and David Porter, as performed by Mable John, and an interpolation of "Tom's Diner", as written and performed by Suzanne Vega.
   
"The Negotiator" contains a sample of "Can't Stop Loving You", written by Carl Marshall and Robert Holmes, as performed by Soul Dog.

[Zeccy]

Samples credits -

Dear lord. So its not possible to do an album without all those samples?

[Sccit]

 "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again)", written by Sylvester Stewart, as performed by Sly and the Family Stone


^ they were playing this at Ralph’s today

[Invincible]

Dear lord. So its not possible to do an album without all those samples?

What's wrong with sampling?

[heyyou]

The Chronic & Doggystyle were full of samples and interpolations, so I find it strange it's an now an issue

[Duck Duck Doggy]

What's wrong with sampling?

Nothing

[D-TalkX]

The Chronic & Doggystyle were full of samples and interpolations, so I find it strange it's an now an issue

It's not an issue but much easier/cheaper to get clearances for an interpolation (creating your own recording of the music) as you only need permission from the music writer/publisher/estate as opposed to permission from the owner of the Master Recording (usually the record label, sometimes label/writer/producer/performer/estate).

Dre has always done both but much more interpolating these days.

[Mr.(Ko)Kane]

I like Dre doing some interpolations here. Gives this the live performance vibe that Dre was trying to achieve. Overall, I like the whole project better and better. I currently have “Pressure” and “Hard Knocks” in heavy rotation the past few days. But I still have the opinion that some songs are too short (also because of the beat switches) and are already over by the time they really get going.

I hope Snoop gets Dre to actually release the leftovers on that EP or even reuse them for a follow-up project. I wouldn't mind if Snoop only released albums with Dre from now on. Even if the sound didn't meet expectations, it's hard to deny that Snoop and Dre are making good quality music here. After seeing the “Missionary” short movie, some sort of movie-themed concept album with Dre and Snoop would be the bomb.

[Krull2025]

1.   "Fore Play" (ft BJ the Chicago Kid)   3/5 👍🏻
2.   "Shangri-La"   3/5 👍🏻
3.   "Outta da Blue" (ft Dr. Dre & Alus)   2/5 💩
4.   "Hard Knocks"   4/5 ⭐️
5.   "Gorgeous" (ft Jhené Aiko)   2/5 💩
6.   "Last Dance with Mary Jane" (ft Jelly Roll)   5/5 🔥
7.   "Thank You"   5/5 🔥
8.   "Pressure" (ft Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.)   4/5 ⭐️
9.   "Another Part of Me"   3/5 👍🏻
10.   "Skyscrapers" (ft Method Man & Smitty)   4/5 ⭐️
11.   "Fire" (ft Cocoa Sarai)   3.5/5 👍🏻
12.   "Gunz n Smoke" (ft 50 Cent & Eminem)   4/5 ⭐️
13.   "Sticcy Situation" (ft K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)   5/5 🔥
14.   "Now or Never" (ft Dr. Dre & BJ the Chicago Kid)   4/5 ⭐️
15.   «GangstaPose" (ft Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)   3.5/5 👍🏻
16.   "The Negotiator"   4/5 ⭐️

Overall: 3.8/5

[AftermathBeats]

Does it look like ICU is slowly going its own way? And Dre may have to build a new production crew

https://chadkiser.com/2025/01/05/fredwreck-unveils-magnum-opus-music-label-partners-with-empire/

[OG Snoopaveli]

1.   "Fore Play" (ft BJ the Chicago Kid)   4.5/5
2.   "Shangri-La"   3/5
3.   "Outta da Blue" (ft Dr. Dre & Alus)   3.5/5
4.   "Hard Knocks"   2.5/5
5.   "Gorgeous" (ft Jhené Aiko)   4.5/5
6.   "Last Dance with Mary Jane" (ft Jelly Roll)   0/5
7.   "Thank You"   2/5
8.   "Pressure" (ft Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.)   0/5
9.   "Another Part of Me"   0.5/5
10.   "Skyscrapers" (ft Method Man & Smitty)   1/5
11.   "Fire" (ft Cocoa Sarai)   1/5
12.   "Gunz n Smoke" (ft 50 Cent & Eminem)   1.5/5
13.   "Sticcy Situation" (ft K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)   1.5/5
14.   "Now or Never" (ft Dr. Dre & BJ the Chicago Kid)   1/5
15.   "GangstaPose" (ft Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)   1.5/5
16.   "The Negotiator"   1/5

Overall: 1.5/5

[astra4322]

1.   "Fore Play" (ft BJ the Chicago Kid)   4.5/5
2.   "Shangri-La"   3/5
3.   "Outta da Blue" (ft Dr. Dre & Alus)   3.5/5
4.   "Hard Knocks"   2.5/5
5.   "Gorgeous" (ft Jhené Aiko)   4.5/5
6.   "Last Dance with Mary Jane" (ft Jelly Roll)   0/5
7.   "Thank You"   2/5
8.   "Pressure" (ft Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.)   0/5
9.   "Another Part of Me"   0.5/5
10.   "Skyscrapers" (ft Method Man & Smitty)   1/5
11.   "Fire" (ft Cocoa Sarai)   1/5
12.   "Gunz n Smoke" (ft 50 Cent & Eminem)   1.5/5
13.   "Sticcy Situation" (ft K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)   1.5/5
14.   "Now or Never" (ft Dr. Dre & BJ the Chicago Kid)   1/5
15.   "GangstaPose" (ft Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)   1.5/5
16.   "The Negotiator"   1/5

Overall: 1.5/5

What is your top 3 Snoops album?

[goodyoung]

Hmm, since we are doing ratings now:

1.   "Fore Play" (ft BJ the Chicago Kid)   2,5/5
2.   "Shangri-La"   3/5
3.   "Outta da Blue" (ft Dr. Dre & Alus)   3/5 (beat is horrendous and hook is fucking unbearable, but Dre's rapping is nice and Snoop sounds great)
4.   "Hard Knocks"   4/5
5.   "Gorgeous" (ft Jhené Aiko)   2/5
6.   "Last Dance with Mary Jane" (ft Jelly Roll)   5/5
7.   "Thank You"   5/5
8.   "Pressure" (ft Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.)   4,5/5
9.   "Another Part of Me"   3,5/5
10.   "Skyscrapers" (ft Method Man & Smitty)   4/5
11.   "Fire" (ft Cocoa Sarai)   4,5/5
12.   "Gunz n Smoke" (ft 50 Cent & Eminem)   2,5/5
13.   "Sticcy Situation" (ft K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)   5/5
14.   "Now or Never" (ft Dr. Dre & BJ the Chicago Kid)   4/5
15.   «GangstaPose" (ft Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)   3/5
16.   "The Negotiator"   3,5/5

Overall: 3,6/5