SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)

[Soopafly DPGC]

again, i’m not talking about type of sound.. i’m talking about level of production. like many pointed out, a lot of the stuff he’s doing now sounds like just blaze.. and i’ll take it a step further n say just blaze did it better. so to sit here n say that just blaze music > dr dre music is a testament of the LEVEL in production, not the type of sound. i don’t care if it’s g-funk, rock, jazz or whatever… this music is GOOD not GREAT, which is a fall off for Dre no matter how u slice it

and again, i’m the biggest dre apologist here.. i’ve spent years going to battle against weirdos who claimed he had ghost producers, or cats who claim he steals credit etc….there is no one ever who has been close to peak dre in hip-hop.

but this album, g-funk or not, isn’t up to the dre standard QUALITYwise. not stylewise.

This is a totally new sound for Dre.  How can you say he fell off?  Fell off from what?  What are you comparing it to?  Dre's never sounded like this before.
 This purposely does not sound like his old stuff, that is the whole idea.  Production wise, style wise, you name it, he purposely did it differently to create a new sound. 

Now you can say personally you don't like his new sound, and personally you don't like his new production team or new techniques or new voice coaching, whatever.  But you can't objectively say it's bad or that he's fallen off.  Now if he produces another album with this same type of style and it is bad, then you can say he fell off from this.  I think this is much better than Marsha's album, which also had the new Dre style, so you could compare it to that if you'd like, but it's a step up from that album, thus invalidating your entire point. 

[OG Snoopaveli]

1. Doggystyle
2. Tha Last Meal
3. Tha Doggfather
4. Tha Blue Carpet Treatment ( still annoyed that "Look Around and "Long Gone" didn't make the final cut)
5. R&G
6. Top Dogg
7. Paid da cost to be da Boss
8. BUSH
9. Missionary
10. Doggumentary
11. REINCARNATED
12. Da Game is to be...

I consider the rest of those albums mixtapes

Unreleased Heat Rocks is so dope! Maybe better than TBCT

[hitsaw]

1. Doggystyle
2. Last Meal
3. Paid da cost
4. R&G
5. Doggfather

[Eddz]

1. Doggystyle
2. Tha Last Meal
3. Missionary
4. Top Dogg
5. Doggfather

Top Dogg and Doggfather are both pretty close for me and could easily swap around.

[AftermathBeats]

Doggystyle
Tha last Meal
Missionary
Tha Doggfather
Top Dogg
TBC
BODR
R&G

[Jay_J]

i don't get why "Paid da cost to be da boss" album is not in people's top 5. it is a classic. it is one of my favorite snoop albums. it was really satisfying album after a classic like "The Last Meal".

[hitsaw]

Its in my top 3.

[gfunk2024]

I don't know why people like "Thank You" so much. One of the worst songs on the album for me. Thank You and Outta da Blue are my two least favorite.

[Rubenowski]

I got you bro. Have that album as #5 on my list

[PLANT]

Doggystyle
Last Meal
Missionary
Top Dogg
Paid Tha Cost
Blue Carpet
R&G
BODR
Ego Trippin
Tha Doggfather
Da Game is to be sold…
Coolaid, Thank Me, Doggumentary

Everything else

[OG Snoopaveli]

i don't get why "Paid da cost to be da boss" album is not in people's top 5. it is a classic. it is one of my favorite snoop albums. it was really satisfying album after a classic like "The Last Meal".

6th in mine

[Sccit]

This is a totally new sound for Dre.  How can you say he fell off?  Fell off from what?  What are you comparing it to?  Dre's never sounded like this before.
 This purposely does not sound like his old stuff, that is the whole idea.  Production wise, style wise, you name it, he purposely did it differently to create a new sound. 

Now you can say personally you don't like his new sound, and personally you don't like his new production team or new techniques or new voice coaching, whatever.  But you can't objectively say it's bad or that he's fallen off.  Now if he produces another album with this same type of style and it is bad, then you can say he fell off from this.  I think this is much better than Marsha's album, which also had the new Dre style, so you could compare it to that if you'd like, but it's a step up from that album, thus invalidating your entire point.

i don’t get what’s so hard to understand

he fell off from a production standpoint…. sonically, it doesn’t hit the same. he coulda did the same exact style with more warmth on the EQ and thickness on the low end it would sound a lot better. Dre was always a master at making the beat hug the vocals, which is something lacking on this album.

He also fell off in terms of layering without any sounds clashing due to an abundance of chaos….this is not about personal taste, but more so in regards to a production method, which is unequivocally a step down from his prime work, where no frequency ever got lost in the mix. 

[Sccit]

i don't get why "Paid da cost to be da boss" album is not in people's top 5. it is a classic. it is one of my favorite snoop albums. it was really satisfying album after a classic like "The Last Meal".

i told you this way back… you’re alone in thinking it’s a classic. most people were disappointed in real time when that album dropped.

[The Predator]

Album: Snoop Dogg - Missionary

A 30-year reunion which fails to pleasure

by Kathryn Reilly
Wednesday,
08 January 2025


Sometimes magic really can’t be recreated. However hard it’s strived for.

The incendiary magic that was Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg three decades ago has not been conjured again in this long-awaited reunion. There are sparks of genius, for sure, and some notable beats and samples but it’s certainly no Doggystyle. Maybe the clue is in the “cheeky” title and painfully obvious condom packet imagery on the cover. So far, so teen.

One might expect a more mature vocabulary and smarter ideas from the now 53- and 59-years-olds but, sadly – and predictably – we are served liberal sprinklings of effing and jeffing and as many bitches, ganstas, n***as and hoes as you can shake a AK47 at (every track has an explicit content warning donchaknow). Mr Dogg has said his attitude to women has changed since he had a daughter – that’s certainly not evident on this record.

“Snoop Dogg makes the world go round” the cheesy opening track "Foreplay" informs us. “Outta Da Blue” raises the game a little as Dre and Alus (who they?) join in the vocals, which include a bizarre recreation of MIA’s “Paper Planes” chorus. “Hard Knocks” works much better, not least because the funkier mixing (another eclectic inclusion is a kids’ chorus of Pink Floyd’s “Another Brick in the Wall”). The single “Gorgeous” promised so much – this is much more like it, everything working as it should. I bet you can’t do anything but bounce to this.

Let’s face it, it must be hard to take risks when you have so much to lose – the absolute opposite situation from when they first worked together, innovating as they did. They’re now both business moguls, mainstream media fodder and up to their necks in the Olympics, none of which allows them to really push things like back in the proverbial day. And the fact that Martha Stewart gets two mentions kind of sums it all up.

What’s this? Tom Petty on an ode to Snoop’s first love – good old Mary Jane. Truly horrible. The greatest affront though, is the inclusion of Sting’s vocals in “Another Part of Me”. The Police are surely not suitable on any rap song (yes, that includes the dreadful “I’ll be missing you” by P Diddy – if only the world had taken note then), let alone one by the fathers of G-Funk. More appropriately, Eminem and Fiddy turn up on Gunz N Smoke but it’s a tad flat. Perhaps expectations are too high, the heights reached in the past now unattainable, but it’s hard to fathom who this will really appeal to in 2025.


rating 3/5

[doggfather]

11.-10-9. Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told & Ego Trippin' & Malice n Wonderland+More Malice

8. R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece

7.- 6. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss & Doggumentary

5.-4. No Limit Top Dogg & Tha Blue Carpet Treatment

3. Tha Last Meal

2. Tha Doggfather

1. Doggystyle