Hittman: The TRAGIC Story Of Dr. Dre’s Former Protégé

[WCThang]

knoc-turnal had the it factor, no doubt

he had the character, the voice, the charisma, the originality

the only issue wit knoc was that as an emcee, he wasn’t on that level … it was the one thing holding him back

his biggest hit was bad intentions, which he’s only singing the chorus on

his bread and butter was hooks and he shoulda took more of a nate dogg route imo

Definitely had a lot going for him.. I agree he wasn't an amazing emcee, but he was no slouch either. Verses on "Bang Bang" and "Str8 west coast" were very lyrical.

Amazing hook singer, don't forget Lights Out.

He also has some awful luck with record labels (what happened at Elektra when The Way I Am dropped) and of course had his own personal issues that got in his own way.

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

hittman def had the potential to be a king t level underground west coast legend

I think this is fair.

[Sccit]

Definitely had a lot going for him.. I agree he wasn't an amazing emcee, but he was no slouch either. Verses on "Bang Bang" and "Str8 west coast" were very lyrical.

Amazing hook singer, don't forget Lights Out.

He also has some awful luck with record labels (what happened at Elektra when The Way I Am dropped) and of course had his own personal issues that got in his own way.

his flow was a bit choppy and not as fluid as the other west coast emcees to come from that umbrella


not saying he was a terrible rapper.. his music was dope and enjoyable. just that an emcee like hittman was a cut above on a technical level.

[soopa-man]

I seen a Vlad interview with Ben Baller thar explained the Hittman thing simple he had signed a deal prior to Dre and getting the final contract together to make him a Aftermath artist and negotiate the signing contract from the one he was already on was the nail in the coffin ⚰️ (The other people he signed with wanted a lot of money) and it didn’t happen

Funny thing is Jimmy said the same story on Xzibit the reason Restless was delayed was Dre and Jimmy went to Steve Rifkind to buy him out or negotiate the deal to bring X to Aftermath and they asked for over a Million for X and that was it … that broke the deal with X and Dre but in turn since Dre stayed down he EP the project and asked for money from Rifkin and not Xs budget to fund him finishing his project with out X being a Aftermath artist from Dre while Xwas on Loud Records …


Seems we find out about deals sometimes before the ink is dry .. artist get called on for projects and have contracts with people that hear Dre and Jimmy interscope and says hey it’s our payday and ruin other artists dreams …

Knoc was sad to see and bumpin his music is dope and at the end I always wonder like damn wtf … he had it all a great ear for beats and features … he wrote great fuckin songs really dope concepts and even was simple on them and it was dope as shit
Too bad he stealing from Walmart and drinking his life away now …

[Sccit]

I seen a Vlad interview with Ben Baller thar explained the Hittman thing simple he had signed a deal prior to Dre and getting the final contract together to make him a Aftermath artist and negotiate the signing contract from the one he was already on was the nail in the coffin ⚰️ (The other people he signed with wanted a lot of money) and it didn’t happen

Funny thing is Jimmy said the same story on Xzibit the reason Restless was delayed was Dre and Jimmy went to Steve Rifkind to buy him out or negotiate the deal to bring X to Aftermath and they asked for over a Million for C and that was it … that broke the deal with X and Dre but in turn since Dre stayed down he EP the project and asked for money from Rifkin and not Xs budget to fund him finishing his project with out C being a Aftermath artist from Dre while C was on Loud Records …


Seems we find out about deals sometimes before the ink is dry .. artist get called on for projects and have contracts with people that hear Dre and Jimmy interscope and says hey it’s our payday and ruin other artists dreams …

Knoc was sad to see and bumpin his music is dope and at the end I always wonder like damn wtf … he had it all a great ear for beats and features … he wrote great fuckin songs really dope concepts and even was simple on them and it was dope as shit
Too bad he stealing from Walmart and drinking his life away now …

who is C??

[WCThang]

his flow was a bit choppy and not as fluid as the other west coast emcees to come from that umbrella


not saying he was a terrible rapper.. his music was dope and enjoyable. just that an emcee like hittman was a cut above on a technical level.

He definitely had a weird flow, but that also made him unique.

But yeah Hittman was a definitely a better pure rapper.

[WCThang]

I seen a Vlad interview with Ben Baller thar explained the Hittman thing simple he had signed a deal prior to Dre and getting the final contract together to make him a Aftermath artist and negotiate the signing contract from the one he was already on was the nail in the coffin ⚰️ (The other people he signed with wanted a lot of money) and it didn’t happen

Funny thing is Jimmy said the same story on Xzibit the reason Restless was delayed was Dre and Jimmy went to Steve Rifkind to buy him out or negotiate the deal to bring X to Aftermath and they asked for over a Million for C and that was it … that broke the deal with X and Dre but in turn since Dre stayed down he EP the project and asked for money from Rifkin and not Xs budget to fund him finishing his project with out C being a Aftermath artist from Dre while C was on Loud Records …


Seems we find out about deals sometimes before the ink is dry .. artist get called on for projects and have contracts with people that hear Dre and Jimmy interscope and says hey it’s our payday and ruin other artists dreams …

Knoc was sad to see and bumpin his music is dope and at the end I always wonder like damn wtf … he had it all a great ear for beats and features … he wrote great fuckin songs really dope concepts and even was simple on them and it was dope as shit
Too bad he stealing from Walmart and drinking his life away now …

Damn, didn't realize it had gotten that bad for Knoc.

[soopa-man]

who is C??

My bad X I meant fir Xzibit letters close together on the phone

[Jay_J]

there's nothing tragic with him. he earns enough money (a lotta money actually) with his credits on 2001 trough streaming by just sitting on his ass. i don't respect him because of that.

[WCThang]

there's nothing tragic with him. he earns enough money (a lotta money actually) with his credits on 2001 trough streaming by just sitting on his ass. i don't respect him because of that.

That's the way it should be.

He made SEVERAL contributions to one of the greatest rap albums of all time. Something that classic should earn him money for the rest of his life.

[Dwax-187]

I walk with a limp, cuz my dicks in the way - Hittman, Watch Out (Knoc Turnal) 

Going down memory lane wtf happened to Knoc?! Im listening to The Way I Am, this is great west coast ish.

[WCThang]

I walk with a limp, cuz my dicks in the way - Hittman, Watch Out (Knoc Turnal) 

Going down memory lane wtf happened to Knoc?! Im listening to The Way I Am, this is great west coast ish.

He seemed to have really bad luck with record labels.

He also presumably had some personal struggles that burned a lot of bridges for him.

He did put out a new EP pretty recently called Knight Vision that had features from Crooked I, Joe Moses and Ms. Toi

[TraceOneInfinite]

I walk with a limp, cuz my dicks in the way - Hittman, Watch Out (Knoc Turnal) 

Going down memory lane wtf happened to Knoc?! Im listening to The Way I Am, this is great west coast ish.

Just another Dre protege' turned casualty.  Not blaming Dre I mean Dre's made a lot of people a lot of money over the years. 

but from a fans perspective probably the biggest disappointment for me was not getting King Tee summer of 98'.  But not too far behind that is Knoc.  Dre even filmed and performed on a lead single with Missy Elliot for a Knoc album that was supposed to be released and never came out.  Similar to being in the "Got It Locked" video a lead single or King T and that never coming out summer of 98'. This is a sample of the way that King T shit woulda hit summer of 98' I can't imagine how fuccin hype I woulda been 16 my first year wit a license rollin to dis shit (sure would a beat rollin to Snoop's Da Game and all that No Limit trash)..



Gettin back to Knoc that EP got released which was really strange.  "Night and Day" was a fucking great song but I remember the EP like charing #72 first week which was also really strange.  The whole thing just didn't make sense.  When everything finally came out whether offically released or leaked one way or another I wasn't impressed.

I'll tell you what was impressive if we are talking about Hitman, Knoc, and cats who were up and coming on 2001.  That 6'2" shit !!  The music 6'2" was recording with Aftermath and with DOC in that ERA actually ended up being like the best shit of all the unreleased Aftermath shit aside from maybe King T.  Where's that cat on here that used to do all the fanmade albums for us?  That 6'2" Aftermath album he put on here was the BOMB!!   Just check out that one Screwed UP DRE joint where it like changes up speeds and shit like that!! it's late and I'm too lazy now but I'll post it later.  6'2" posts here on the dubb by the way

[TraceOneInfinite]

lol you’re trippin .. hittman album shits on 6’2 album

get myne
the hiznit
last dayz
watch out
let shit go
blaow
ass
front page
it ain’t safe


ALL clearly have the 2001 sound


i’ll tell u just from knowing you.. you never really listened to murder weapon like that. and since u used to listen to 6’2 album regularly during a time in your life where u were more optimistic, u have a nostalgic attachment to it

but make no mistake, murder weapon is classic

the hittmanic verses album from 2005 is actually not the exact tracklist as murder weapon .. it does have 95% of the same tracks tho

We was both postin on the dubb and homies at the same time that Hitman unrelased album leaked in like 02'.  So I gave it a serious listen like everyone else here.  But ain't nothin on it fuccin with shit like this from the fanmade 6'2" we got many years later in 2014.  Yes I was in a better period in my life then (teaching English in Indonesia riding around after midnight on a motorbike listening to this shit!!), so you have a nice point but still what Hittman track you mentioned fuccs with this, I can't find all the tracks he compiled but here's a few...












LET'S POST DEM SOFT ASS HITTMAN JOINTS SIDE BY SIDE SAME POST WITH 6'2" and LET THE CROWD DECIDE, WHICH ONE YOU WANT ME TO POST??

[TraceOneInfinite]

knoc-turnal had the it factor, no doubt

he had the character, the voice, the charisma, the originality

the only issue wit knoc was that as an emcee, he wasn’t on that level … it was the one thing holding him back

his biggest hit was bad intentions, which he’s only singing the chorus on

his bread and butter was hooks and he shoulda took more of a nate dogg route imo

yeah pretty much, he could've done some more shit like "Night and Day". He carried that whole track on his own, verses and hooks.  I think it's possible.  Not every rapper has to rap fast, I mean look at what Warren G accomplished on G Funk Era.  You can be laid back and smooth, get a few good writers to surround you and help tighten up your shit, and you got a shot at a classic